Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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Cork Evertonian said:
I have to admit the question as to my thoughts on an scenario where the IRA were governing the south of Ireland, and launched a Hamas style attack on the UK is a very good one.

Right so let's say IRA operatives run amok in various British cities and kidnapped civilians and brought them back to Ireland.

Well in that scenario if the IRA operatives were dressing up like ordinary civilians, if they were running operation and command centers in built up areas, if IRA operatives were hiding out in people's houses and storing guns, ammunition and bombs in them.

Well you can join the dots here can't you some sort of response from British security forces would be inevitable. Of course it would be a terrible position, but i would be angry at the IRA for putting innocent Irish civilians in this sort of horrible position.
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Good summary of the scenario put to you. Now, if the UK decided their response was to blow up the buildings where the IRA were hiding behind civilians, and tens of thousands of innocent Irish citizens got killed, would you "Stand with Britain"?
 
WA Toffee said:
Good summary of the scenario put to you. Now, if the UK decided their response was to blow up the buildings where the IRA were hiding behind civilians, and tens of thousands of innocent Irish citizens got killed, would you "Stand with Britain"?
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Mate, the idf aren’t even blowing up buildings where Hamas are, they’re blowing up shelters, aid convoys, safe zones, families in houses, families in cars as well as every university, school, water treatment plant, electricity stations, football grounds, mosques, orchards… the lot.

Corky would agree with the British army doing that in Ireland it seems
 
Cork Evertonian said:
I've seen a disgraceful interview on the RTE YouTube channel, with Dana Erlich the former Israeli ambassador to Ireland.

The questions asked were a disgrace. No allowances made for the fact that Israel is the only democratic country in the world, whose neighbours want to destroy it.

No allowances made for the fact that Hamas dress up in civilian clothing, and dress up like journalists and aid workers etc.

Here's the interview i think the line of questioning was very biased, and she conducted herself very well imo.

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Sending a 14 year old to jail



https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDFuQ0cNXxz/?igsh=MXBpNHJwYndsMzg5
 
Cork Evertonian said:
I have to admit the question as to my thoughts on an scenario where the IRA were governing the south of Ireland, and launched a Hamas style attack on the UK is a very good one.

Right so let's say IRA operatives run amok in various British cities and kidnapped civilians and brought them back to Ireland.

Well in that scenario if the IRA operatives were dressing up like ordinary civilians, if they were running operation and command centers in built up areas, if IRA operatives were hiding out in people's houses and storing guns, ammunition and bombs in them.

Well you can join the dots here can't you some sort of response from British security forces would be inevitable. Of course it would be a terrible position, but i would be angry at the IRA for putting innocent Irish civilians in this sort of horrible position.
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Would you have condoned the Irish Army dropping bombs on the Shankill Rd in response to the Shankill Butchers activities?
 
WA Toffee said:
Good summary of the scenario put to you. Now, if the UK decided their response was to blow up the buildings where the IRA were hiding behind civilians, and tens of thousands of innocent Irish citizens got killed, would you "Stand with Britain"?
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Well if the IRA beheaded and burned babies to death in ovens like Hamas did on October 7th 2023, then any reprisals would be understandable i think.
 
Noisy noise annoys said:
Ok, some progress, well done

What are the Palestinian people to do? They have e been forcibly under occupation for 80 years. Diplomacy and talks did not work

Under international law, resisting occupation with force is permitted. What would you do? Roll over and let Israel continue to steal land?
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I have already explained that's it's not possible to steal what is yours. Having said that any Palestinian citizens who wish to live in peace with their Israeli neighbours are welcome to do so.

The Jews weren't wanted in Europe after world war two, they weren't and still aren't wanted in the middle east either, so the best course of action as far as i can see, was to give them their own state in their historical land and support their efforts at defending their right to exist and live in their own state.

Let the state of Israel be an open house for all who respect it Jewish or not. That's how it should and does work in the ideal scenario.
 
Cork Evertonian said:
Yeah there was attacks but the IRA were not the elected representatives of the Irish public.

It wasn't the actual Irish Defence Forces who were committing these attacks. So I think you are being a little bit disengenious here.

Well yes it is in a roundabout way down to the Israeli state. Most of it's neighbours want it destroyed and Jews to be massacred.

Right wing, left wing whatever Hamas would still be gunning for Israel, and an October 7th 2023 type of massacre was happening regardless.

I also agree with the it didn't start on October 7th thing, there was attacks on the Israeli state and people long before that as well!
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You are a disgrace @Cork Evertonian ! How anyone can defend genocide is beyond me! That is what has been happening and as a fellow Irishman I think your opinions stink to high heaven and goes against what every right thinking citizen in Ireland and beyond believes!
 
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