Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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Can you (and anyone who has called them Nazis in the prior pages which has been numerous) explain how they have acted like Nazis?

Innocents have been killed in all wars, so why are we so quick to call Israel Nazis but not any other state engaged in warfare? Genuine question.

I think any state actively engaged in attempted genocide of a specific set of people are acting like Nazis.

Russia is also guilty of this especially when taking into account their attempted deletion of Ukrainian history and culture.
 
Can you (and anyone who has called them Nazis in the prior pages which has been numerous) explain how they have acted like Nazis?

Innocents have been killed in all wars, so why are we so quick to call Israel Nazis but not any other state engaged in warfare? Genuine question.
I think it's perhaps because the way Israel has forced the Palestinians to live in the West Bank is somewhat reminiscent of the Nazi ghettos, and because Israel is currently committing genocide in Gaza, and because of the racist and genocidal language used by many right-wing Israelis, including several members of the government.

It's an unhelpful and inaccurate comparison, and deeply offensive to Jewish people. There has never been a deliberate and systematic attempt to exterminate a people comparable to the Holocaust. It's easy enough to criticise Israel's actions without using it.
 
I think it's perhaps because the way Israel has forced the Palestinians to live in the West Bank is somewhat reminiscent of the Nazi ghettos, and because Israel is currently committing genocide in Gaza, and because of the racist and genocidal language used by many right-wing Israelis, including several members of the government.

It's an unhelpful and inaccurate comparison, and deeply offensive to Jewish people. There has never been a deliberate and systematic attempt to exterminate a people comparable to the Holocaust. It's easy enough to criticise Israel's actions without using it.

Nobody is saying Jewish people are acting like Nazis though, it is absolutely acceptable to accuse a state of it irregardless of religion.

Offending a state or people who support a state who is murdering children and actively engaged in attempted genocide doesn't bother me in the slightest.
 
Can you (and anyone who has called them Nazis in the prior pages which has been numerous) explain how they have acted like Nazis?

Innocents have been killed in all wars, so why are we so quick to call Israel Nazis but not any other state engaged in warfare? Genuine question.

I agree that the Nazi comparison is very offensive to Jewish people, and i have never personally used this comparison, Nazi's were obviously a political party so the comparisons should against the Israeli government and not members of the public.

What is happening here a lot though, is criticism of the government has somehow turned in criticism of the nation, to a whole religion in one swoop for no real reason so anything against a government is now antisemitic.

the Iranian, for eg, government has right been criticised for a long time but that doesn't mean all of its critics are Islamophobic and i don't see many people accusing the critics of being that in the same way as they are with israel. Obviously some are, but its not them same blanket phrase that there currently is with the Israeli government
 
One of the things that doesnt get mentioned enough on here is how keen the Israeli right has been to keep pushing its agenda even whilst calling for unity - not only in terms of repeatedly sabotaging negotiations, in further corrupting the police, in boosting settler violence or attacking their enemies via client media.

Just today, the Israeli justice minister lost (in Court) in an attempt to hold off appointing a new head of the Supreme Court until he can make sure that the next guy isnt a "liberal". He of course said that the Court decision was illegal. Meanwhile a strike by teachers looks like it may be called off - they were striking because the government wants to move to individual contracts for teachers (rather than collective bargaining as happens now and happens nearly everywhere else in state sector education).
 
Innocents have been killed in all wars, so why are we so quick to call Israel Nazis but not any other state engaged in warfare? Genuine question.



Israel aren't targeting Hamas. They are indiscriminately bombing anyone they can and have murdered thousands of kids. They are bombing schools and they are bombing hospitals. Nazis.

As of 13 May 2024, the U.N. has reported that the 35,000 who have died in the conflict includes 7,797 minors, 4,959 women and 1,924 elderly with confirmed identities.

Over just 19 days, from October 7 to 25, at least 7,028 people - including 2,913 children - have been killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health.

Women, children and the elderly make up 73 percent of those killed by Israeli bombardments in Gaza.

Among the victims are:
  • 133 babies below the age of one
  • 482 toddlers (1-3 years old)
  • 344 preschoolers (4-5 years old)
  • 1,042 primary school children (6-12 years old)
  • 664 high school children (13-17 years old)
  • 966 young adults (18-25 years old)
  • 2,506 adults (26-55 years old)
  • 521 Naksa survivors (56-74 years old)
  • 89 Nakba survivors (75+ years old)

Not sure how you and Corky get such a hard-on for dead babies, but I genuinely think it's astonishing that people openly support this
 
Can you (and anyone who has called them Nazis in the prior pages which has been numerous) explain how they have acted like Nazis?

Innocents have been killed in all wars, so why are we so quick to call Israel Nazis but not any other state engaged in warfare? Genuine question.
There are current ministers in the coalition government that have said the Palestinians aren't a real people(sound familiar?), have given talks with maps showing the end goal of the greater Kingdom of Israel which doesn't include Jordan the Gaza strip or the West Bank(Reich talk), have continually broken either cease fire agreements or peace negotiations in favour of indiscriminate bombing of densely populated areas and have quoted the likes of the book of Deuteronomy which is a blood thirsty divinely justified to do list for the obliteration or total enslavement of a people. Those in the 'promised land' that aren't them should be annihilated. Holocaust survivors have condemned their fascist rhetoric and actions
Nazis
 
I agree that the Nazi comparison is very offensive to Jewish people, and i have never personally used this comparison, Nazi's were obviously a political party so the comparisons should against the Israeli government and not members of the public.

What is happening here a lot though, is criticism of the government has somehow turned in criticism of the nation, to a whole religion in one swoop for no real reason so anything against a government is now antisemitic.

the Iranian, for eg, government has right been criticised for a long time but that doesn't mean all of its critics are Islamophobic and i don't see many people accusing the critics of being that in the same way as they are with israel. Obviously some are, but its not them same blanket phrase that there currently is with the Israeli government
The Israeli Government itself over numerous administrations have encouraged a lack of differentiation between the two. That has been their go to defence far too often.
I heard a former minister accuse a Channel 4 reporter of 'holocaust denialism' because he asked him who else besides the IDF has verified that there was a Hamas tunnel system under a particular hostipal they obliterated

I'm happy to call the Israeli government akin to Nazis because they are, and I don't care if I'm called Anti-Semitic because I'm not
 
They are out of control.


Indeed. That horror Katz was interviewed earlier today, apparently setting the scene for an attack on Hezbollah but in reality letting everyone know that the blow will fall on the Lebanese. Another Likud politician was claiming that a part of Beirut long associated with Hezbollah would end up like Gaza.

The sooner the pro-Israeli crowd here understand that supporting a friend is often not the same as supporting everything that friend does, the better.
 
Are these people really the good guys here?


As for the way my own country has slapped Israel in the face, what else would you expect from a country that provided a safe haven and refuge for Nazi war criminals after World War Two?
Take Cork out of your username, your disgracing my beautiful city with your bile on here. Go stand in Daunt Square and see how long you last spouting that nonsense. 5 mins max before you would kicked up and down the Coal Quay. Bring your Isreali flag to Turners Cross Friday week, see how long it takes for some lad in the shed to ram it up your hole.

@Noisy noise annoys you keep referencing Goldberg the Jewish Mayor of Cork. He was a good and decent man and I'm very confident in saying there is no way he would have supported the current Isreali actions in Gaza
 
Take Cork out of your username, your disgracing my beautiful city with your bile on here. Go stand in Daunt Square and see how long you last spouting that nonsense. 5 mins max before you would kicked up and down the Coal Quay. Bring your Isreali flag to Turners Cross Friday week, see how long it takes for some lad in the shed to ram it up your hole.

@Noisy noise annoys you keep referencing Goldberg the Jewish Mayor of Cork. He was a good and decent man and I'm very confident in saying there is no way he would have supported the current Isreali actions in Gaza
Indeed, I read about him after this discussion - seemed sound. Shame this poster on here has totally misread him tbh
 
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