Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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Since 1947, you mean.

No state that elevates one group over all others deserves to exist like that.
No, I mean 1967. The settlement movement amd what came to be known as "the Occupation" started after the Six Day war, when Israel took Jerusalem and the West Bank from Jordan, Gaza and the Sinai from Egypt, and the Golan Heights from Syria.

Although I suppose it's fair to say they were carrying out pogroms and ethnic cleansing prior to that.
 
I agree. Does it have a right to bomb and maim tens of thousands of people indiscriminately? No imo
What's worse, Israel's right to exist it coming at the cost of many Palestinians right to exist - and no, I don't meant Hamas. They're murdering civilians.

Once again, Israel have shown their abhorrent lack of composure and moral stance by attacking al-Mawasi and potentially killing nearly 100 civilians.

Whether Hamas were taking advantage of/misusing the humanitarian zone or not, the collateral cost is, to put it simply, too high, and shows a lack of moral fibre.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... I agree with Israel's right to defend itself, but this isn't it.
 
I agree. Does it have a right to bomb and maim tens of thousands of people indiscriminately? No imo
As i said mate i don't agree with everything that Israel does. I just wanted to offer something different to the usual narrative on this thread.

Hopefully people who have more of a pro Israel slant on things will develop the confidence to speak their minds, and not be some sort of nodding dog in order to please people and keep them happy.
 
Hopefully people who have more of a pro Israel slant on things will develop the confidence to speak their minds, and not be some sort of nodding dog in order to please people and keep them happy.



Yeah, but most of us aren't anti-Israel. We are anti-kids getting bombed in their thousands. I think you struggle to make the distinction.

Saying "I don't agree with everything Israel does" falls a bit short of the sort of condemnation that carpet bombing civilian populations into smithereens deserves
 
Fair play to Fianna Fáil for standing up against von dear Leyen for her support for Netanyahu. Probably won't get an Irish Commissioner, but innocent lives are far more important than political expediency.

I wonder if she gets funding from pro Israeli bodies similar to UK Friends if Israel.


'I think the issue of Gaza is a far more important issue," the Dublin MEP added.

Also speaking on This Week, he said this morning another 100 civilians have been "slaughtered by the IDF in Gaza."

"We have to take seriously that President von der Leyen has given comfort to Netanyahu consistently since October 7th, and we condemn everything that Hamas has done, but we have to take this into account."
 
Yeah, but most of us aren't anti-Israel. We are anti-kids getting bombed in their thousands. I think you struggle to make the distinction.

Saying "I don't agree with everything Israel does" falls a bit short of the sort of condemnation that carpet bombing civilian populations into smithereens deserves
Well some are anti Israel mate. When the middle fingers are being brought out for someone daring to offer a different opinion, then that tells us all we need to know!

I don't want any kids be they Israeli or Palestinian getting killed either, but for as long as an islamic terrorist cell is operating out of Gaza then such a situation will continue to be unavoidable sadly.
 
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