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Hell broke loose during a pilgrimage event in Hebron

Toine van Teeffelen

Itamar Ben Gvir, the incoming Israeli minister of “public security”, is from Kiryat Arba, the large Jewish settlement in walking distance from the center of Hebron. He is a well-known personality associated with followers of the late Meir Kahane who in the final decades of the last century advocated for the expulsion of Palestinians from Israel and the West Bank.

There are also some hundreds of Israeli settlers living along or close to a strangely empty street in the center of busy Hebron, Shuhadeh street. This long street and its side streets in the Tel Rumeideh quarter are the location of several small Jewish settlements. The area has become an open air prison surrounded by checkpoints. The army does not permit Palestinians from outside the area nor Palestinian cars to enter the street. Only Palestinians who live along the street and in the neighborhood are allowed in. All smaller and larger thoroughfares from the busy center are blocked. Israeli settlers have however free access to the neighborhood both on foot and in cars.

The area is heavily militarized, with watchtowers and army posts galore. At one of the checkpoints a remotely controlled system has been installed for crowd dispersal, which includes the capacity to fire stun grenades, tear gas and sponge-tipped bullets.

A few weeks ago my Bethlehem-based organization, the Arab Educational Institute, put on display “story boards” from a roof opposite Shuhadeh Street, with stories of local Palestinians telling about the violations of dignity the inhabitants suffer on daily base (see photos). In the last few years, AEI worked with local Palestinian women’s organizations in Shuhadeh Street and other parts of the city under Israeli control to try to improve services and develop an early warning system.

Just over a week ago, no early warning system could predict the hell that broke loose in the street.

It happened during Chayei Sarah, the fifth weekly Torah portion of the annual cycle of Torah reading, which discusses the life of the patriarch Abraham's wife, Sarah, who according to tradition is buried in Hebron. An estimated 30-40,000 Israeli visitors came on Friday 18/11 and Saturday 19/11 to the city. It was like a pelgrimage, highly nationalistic and politicized (as we know it in Bethlehem during Rachel’s Day).

The first Chayei Sarah event was held in Hebron in 1996, in an effort to prevent the signing the following year of the Hebron Protocol, which divided the city into two sectors – H1 under civil Palestinian control and H2, where some 700-1000 Jewish settlers live as well as 20.000 Palestinians, and which is under full Israeli military control.

Chayei Sarah has expanded through the years. The visitors, who include both ultra-Orthodox and secular Israelis, put up tents in the city center. There is not only a camping or holiday youth atmosphere but also one of racist supremacy, a will to assert who is the “lord of the land.”

The newspaper Haaretz and the peace movement outlet +972 provide a couple of quotes about what happened as well as the atmosphere.

In advance of the coming of the visitors, the Israeli army had closed the central market area of Hebron and demanded that shop owners close their stalls to allow settlers to march there. This did not occur without violations of dignity. Louie, the owner of a shop in the market, said the soldiers "threw our goods on the ground and then fired tear gas and rubber bullets to make us go away.”

Then a full-scale attack happened on and nearby Shuhadeh Street. An Israeli soldier said that he saw hundreds of Jews throwing stones at Palestinian homes over a two-hour period. “We tried to gain control over the situation and every time, Jews showed up and threw stones and we didn’t manage to catch them,” he said. “At the height of the incident, hundreds of Jews came and started calling us [Israeli soldiers] Germans [that is, nazis] and spitting on us.”

Local Palestinians had a somewhat different account about the role of the army.

“There were 50 settlers here. There was no one here to help me. One of them punched me in the shoulders and in the back,” 26-year-old Yousef Azzeh described.

“My head started spinning. I ran away so that they would follow me and not come to my house. I didn’t have any strength, and I couldn’t breathe. I fell down and screamed and then I saw soldiers beating my friends while there were settlers above my house.”

“I grew up here. It has never been like this,” Azzeh said. “There had been soldiers here. Where were they yesterday? If they say that they protect me, it’s not true. If you want to protect me, you can put 20 soldiers here. With my own eyes, I didn’t see a single soldier providing protection for the neighborhood.”

Sixty-year-old Bassam Abu Aysha said that in anticipation, Palestinian residents were prepared to stay home out of concern that violence might occur.

"There is not a single house in Tel Rumeideh that was not attacked, what happened today was not normal. A 15-year-old was attacked with a stone in the face and his nose was broken, people were sprayed with pepper spray," he said.

Abu Aysha pointed to a low fence surrounding his house, saying that from there, he saw Israelis jumping over it and into his yard, where they threw stones. Thanks to protective netting and bars, the building’s windows were not damaged. “Tel Rumeideh is a closed-off place. If elsewhere [in the city] there are places to run away to, here there’s nowhere to go,” Abu Aysha said.

“We wanted to protect our families, so we went outside,” he recounted. He said that after going outside, he was actually attacked by the army. “ Soldiers kicked him and threw him on the ground. “The same soldiers we speak to on a daily basis, these are the ones who beat us,” he said.
While one soldier was holding me down, a settler arrived, who punched me. They have no respect. I’m 60 years old, but I was the first to be attacked.”

Abu Aysha injured his leg during the attack and afterward was taken to hospital. He said that a doctor recommended that he stay overnight for monitoring, but he decided to return home out of concern that the attacks would resume. “Every year the army permits the settlers to do what they want but they don’t hit us themselves. This year, the soldiers hit us more than the settlers,” Abu Aysha said.

“They [settlers] took stones from the nearby cemetery and threw them at us. Jewish friends who saw what happened on the news called to say they were ashamed.”

The hundreds of Israelis who did this on Saturday were riding a wave of fanaticism and impunity. The marchers were filmed chanting “a Jew is a soul; an Arab is a son of a bitch” (which rhymes in Hebrew). Israeli army officers had previously invited Baruch Marzel, a far-right activist and Kahanist like Ben Gvir, to give a lecture on the history of Hebron to reservists serving there.

“In the past it was still possible to object to lectures from rabbis; today the majority [of soldiers] is religious and any attempt to object is much harder. The people inviting those lecturers are senior officers in the brigade and the battalion,” a soldier said.

Last week, a group of Israeli peace activists traveled to Hebron to meet with local Palestinian families as an act of solidarity.

In film footage, Israeli troops were seen attempting to arrest an activist, who flees, before he was knocked to the ground and punched.

“Ben Gvir is going to sort things out in this place,” a soldier had told him. “That’s it, you guys have lost … the fun is over.” Asked by the filming activist, “Why? Am I doing something illegal?” the soldier replies, “Everything you do is illegal. I am the law,” and orders the activist to step back.

The soldier was wearing a patch to the back of his military vest that read, “One shot. One kill. No remorse. I decide.”

“We can already see the effects of Ben Gvir’s appointment on the ground,” read a subsequent statement issued by the Israeli human rights organization Breaking the Silence. In a reaction to the last event, Ben Gvir said that the army should investigate whether the peace activists had “provoked” the soldiers.

The Jewish settlement in Hebron is expected to grow in the coming years. Over the past year, construction began on 31 housing units , while 70 additional housing units will be in the area of the city’s wholesale market area, which belongs to Hebron Municipality.

An academic field directly applicable to the Hebron situation is “humiliation studies.” Taking part in an informal network of scholars, I am ready to advise international students interested to do fieldwork in Palestine or writing a thesis on a subject related to occupational dynamics and sumud, including the international dimension. For contact and more information: toinevanteeffelen52@gmail.com




 
Hell broke loose during a pilgrimage event in Hebron

Toine van Teeffelen

Itamar Ben Gvir, the incoming Israeli minister of “public security”, is from Kiryat Arba, the large Jewish settlement in walking distance from the center of Hebron. He is a well-known personality associated with followers of the late Meir Kahane who in the final decades of the last century advocated for the expulsion of Palestinians from Israel and the West Bank.

There are also some hundreds of Israeli settlers living along or close to a strangely empty street in the center of busy Hebron, Shuhadeh street. This long street and its side streets in the Tel Rumeideh quarter are the location of several small Jewish settlements. The area has become an open air prison surrounded by checkpoints. The army does not permit Palestinians from outside the area nor Palestinian cars to enter the street. Only Palestinians who live along the street and in the neighborhood are allowed in. All smaller and larger thoroughfares from the busy center are blocked. Israeli settlers have however free access to the neighborhood both on foot and in cars.

The area is heavily militarized, with watchtowers and army posts galore. At one of the checkpoints a remotely controlled system has been installed for crowd dispersal, which includes the capacity to fire stun grenades, tear gas and sponge-tipped bullets.

A few weeks ago my Bethlehem-based organization, the Arab Educational Institute, put on display “story boards” from a roof opposite Shuhadeh Street, with stories of local Palestinians telling about the violations of dignity the inhabitants suffer on daily base (see photos). In the last few years, AEI worked with local Palestinian women’s organizations in Shuhadeh Street and other parts of the city under Israeli control to try to improve services and develop an early warning system.

Just over a week ago, no early warning system could predict the hell that broke loose in the street.

It happened during Chayei Sarah, the fifth weekly Torah portion of the annual cycle of Torah reading, which discusses the life of the patriarch Abraham's wife, Sarah, who according to tradition is buried in Hebron. An estimated 30-40,000 Israeli visitors came on Friday 18/11 and Saturday 19/11 to the city. It was like a pelgrimage, highly nationalistic and politicized (as we know it in Bethlehem during Rachel’s Day).

The first Chayei Sarah event was held in Hebron in 1996, in an effort to prevent the signing the following year of the Hebron Protocol, which divided the city into two sectors – H1 under civil Palestinian control and H2, where some 700-1000 Jewish settlers live as well as 20.000 Palestinians, and which is under full Israeli military control.

Chayei Sarah has expanded through the years. The visitors, who include both ultra-Orthodox and secular Israelis, put up tents in the city center. There is not only a camping or holiday youth atmosphere but also one of racist supremacy, a will to assert who is the “lord of the land.”

The newspaper Haaretz and the peace movement outlet +972 provide a couple of quotes about what happened as well as the atmosphere.

In advance of the coming of the visitors, the Israeli army had closed the central market area of Hebron and demanded that shop owners close their stalls to allow settlers to march there. This did not occur without violations of dignity. Louie, the owner of a shop in the market, said the soldiers "threw our goods on the ground and then fired tear gas and rubber bullets to make us go away.”

Then a full-scale attack happened on and nearby Shuhadeh Street. An Israeli soldier said that he saw hundreds of Jews throwing stones at Palestinian homes over a two-hour period. “We tried to gain control over the situation and every time, Jews showed up and threw stones and we didn’t manage to catch them,” he said. “At the height of the incident, hundreds of Jews came and started calling us [Israeli soldiers] Germans [that is, nazis] and spitting on us.”

Local Palestinians had a somewhat different account about the role of the army.

“There were 50 settlers here. There was no one here to help me. One of them punched me in the shoulders and in the back,” 26-year-old Yousef Azzeh described.

“My head started spinning. I ran away so that they would follow me and not come to my house. I didn’t have any strength, and I couldn’t breathe. I fell down and screamed and then I saw soldiers beating my friends while there were settlers above my house.”

“I grew up here. It has never been like this,” Azzeh said. “There had been soldiers here. Where were they yesterday? If they say that they protect me, it’s not true. If you want to protect me, you can put 20 soldiers here. With my own eyes, I didn’t see a single soldier providing protection for the neighborhood.”

Sixty-year-old Bassam Abu Aysha said that in anticipation, Palestinian residents were prepared to stay home out of concern that violence might occur.

"There is not a single house in Tel Rumeideh that was not attacked, what happened today was not normal. A 15-year-old was attacked with a stone in the face and his nose was broken, people were sprayed with pepper spray," he said.

Abu Aysha pointed to a low fence surrounding his house, saying that from there, he saw Israelis jumping over it and into his yard, where they threw stones. Thanks to protective netting and bars, the building’s windows were not damaged. “Tel Rumeideh is a closed-off place. If elsewhere [in the city] there are places to run away to, here there’s nowhere to go,” Abu Aysha said.

“We wanted to protect our families, so we went outside,” he recounted. He said that after going outside, he was actually attacked by the army. “ Soldiers kicked him and threw him on the ground. “The same soldiers we speak to on a daily basis, these are the ones who beat us,” he said.
While one soldier was holding me down, a settler arrived, who punched me. They have no respect. I’m 60 years old, but I was the first to be attacked.”

Abu Aysha injured his leg during the attack and afterward was taken to hospital. He said that a doctor recommended that he stay overnight for monitoring, but he decided to return home out of concern that the attacks would resume. “Every year the army permits the settlers to do what they want but they don’t hit us themselves. This year, the soldiers hit us more than the settlers,” Abu Aysha said.

“They [settlers] took stones from the nearby cemetery and threw them at us. Jewish friends who saw what happened on the news called to say they were ashamed.”

The hundreds of Israelis who did this on Saturday were riding a wave of fanaticism and impunity. The marchers were filmed chanting “a Jew is a soul; an Arab is a son of a bitch” (which rhymes in Hebrew). Israeli army officers had previously invited Baruch Marzel, a far-right activist and Kahanist like Ben Gvir, to give a lecture on the history of Hebron to reservists serving there.

“In the past it was still possible to object to lectures from rabbis; today the majority [of soldiers] is religious and any attempt to object is much harder. The people inviting those lecturers are senior officers in the brigade and the battalion,” a soldier said.

Last week, a group of Israeli peace activists traveled to Hebron to meet with local Palestinian families as an act of solidarity.

In film footage, Israeli troops were seen attempting to arrest an activist, who flees, before he was knocked to the ground and punched.

“Ben Gvir is going to sort things out in this place,” a soldier had told him. “That’s it, you guys have lost … the fun is over.” Asked by the filming activist, “Why? Am I doing something illegal?” the soldier replies, “Everything you do is illegal. I am the law,” and orders the activist to step back.

The soldier was wearing a patch to the back of his military vest that read, “One shot. One kill. No remorse. I decide.”

“We can already see the effects of Ben Gvir’s appointment on the ground,” read a subsequent statement issued by the Israeli human rights organization Breaking the Silence. In a reaction to the last event, Ben Gvir said that the army should investigate whether the peace activists had “provoked” the soldiers.

The Jewish settlement in Hebron is expected to grow in the coming years. Over the past year, construction began on 31 housing units , while 70 additional housing units will be in the area of the city’s wholesale market area, which belongs to Hebron Municipality.

An academic field directly applicable to the Hebron situation is “humiliation studies.” Taking part in an informal network of scholars, I am ready to advise international students interested to do fieldwork in Palestine or writing a thesis on a subject related to occupational dynamics and sumud, including the international dimension. For contact and more information: toinevanteeffelen52@gmail.com





This stuff never gets reported enough
 
Israeli incursions into Palestinian refugee camps again yesterday/today
Imagine being forced to live in refugee camps in your own country by your occupiers.
Why are there still refugee camps after 75 years? Accountability lies not with Israel, but with the corrupt Palestinian leaders.

The phrase 'refugee camps' conjures up images on tented villages or tin shacks - the Palestinian camps are more like large neighbourhoods or towns. They are administered by the Palestinian Authority and provisioned by UNRWA (United Nations Relief and Works Agency - a unique organisation devoted solely to the Palestinians). Unlike other refugee populations, the Palestinian refugees have remained in camps for some three generations without resettlement. The number of refugees eligible for aid from UNRWA has ballooned over the years, from 750,000 to over 5,000,000, because they include not just people who left what is now Israel, but also their descendants. In the West Bank there are 870,000 who qualify as refugees, 1.5 million in Gaza. The rest are scattered all over the world with other camps found in Jordan, Lebanon, where conditions are the worst, and Syria, although no-one knows how many Assad killed in the civil war.

Israel demolished all of its Arab refugee camps in the early 1950s and gave their Arab refugees full rights as citizens of the new state. Shortly after the 6-Day War (1967), when Israel occupied Gaza, they built several thousand apartment buildings in Gaza, based on the Israeli housing standards of the day and offered them to refugee camp residents free of charge. The PLO leadership threatened that any family moving into one of these apartments would lose their refugee status. Consequently the buildings stood empty until after the signing of the Oslo Accords when Israeli troops were withdrawn and Arafat and the PLO entered. The apartments were quickly allotted to middle and lower-ranked PLO members and their families. Those families didn’t lose their refugee status.
Similarly, in the mid-20th century, Arab countries driving Jews out resulted in a larger Middle Eastern Jewish refugee population than the entire Palestinian refugee population. Where are these Jews now? Absorbed into the general population more than 50 years ago.

It's not as if the PA have been unable to afford replace the camps with decent housing - they've received billions in aid, much of it siphoned off by corrupt leaders, starting with the billionaire Arafat and continuing under Abbas and his cronies.

In those 75 years there has been just one new town constructed, Rawabi, courtesy of a local millionaire. But that was aimed more at the upper-middle class and wealthy Israeli-Arabs seeking a second home - no thought of providing homes for the poor. Similarly the Jericho Gate development I stayed in earlier this year - wonderful, with swimming pools in every garden, but not built to house people from the nearby refugee camps. Take a look at a map of Jericho - there's plenty of room for new housing developments, the money is there, but there's no intention of rehousing the poor.

There's another impressive development underway on the outskirts of Jerusalem, Lana.

https://thisweekinpalestine.com/lana-neighborhood/

It's aimed at "professionals from a wide spectrum of fields – including medical, legal, educational, technology, tourism and management – as , as well as embassy and NGO staff." Can't imagine any of that lot wanting to rub shoulders with some poor family from Shu'fat camp.

The camps themselves vary quite a lot. The two around Jericho are more spacious than most, but others are cramped, especially those in the big cities, with houses squashed together. Housing is shoddy, there are usually no parks for children to play in, pushing community life out into the surreally narrow streets. There are few jobs to keep youths busy, and even the EU admit the camps have become breeding grounds for terror and incitement. drugs and petty crime are rife, the PA security often afraid to enter. Qalandiya camp is probably the easiest to see as it is close to the busy checkpoint between Ramallah and Jerusalem. The camps are certainly impoverished but if you want to see real poverty, try the backstreets of somewhere like Cairo - far worse as they don't have the benefit of a dedicated UN agency looking after them - UNRWA provide free schooling, medical care and social security payments.

Generations of people have been sold out by leaders who have used them as political pawns and created the impasse by promising them they will one day be able to return to the homes of their grandparents, or even great-grandparents. To mislead them like that is an act of cruelty. It will never happen, as in private many Palestinian leaders acknowledge - those that have admitted it in public, though, including Abbas, have been quickly forced to retract by right-wing hardliners

Dr. Nasser Al-Lahham, editor of the Ma'an Palestinian news agency, wrote an editorial about refugee camps which included this revealing quote:
"The camps are not a problem for anyone. It is always the solution. They are the tanks of the revolution and the ships of return. And whoever does not like that, this is his personal problem."

In other words, the refugee camps are weapons - the residents are cannon fodder. They always have been. Their purpose is to keep people in squalid looking living spaces so that the media can sometimes take photos of them and say "poor people, all because of Israel." There is no desire to dismantle the camps because the misery of the residents is "not a problem" - it is the goal.

Israel should take its share of the blame for the origin of the refugee camps, but remember that there would have been no war had the Arabs accepted the offer that Mahmoud Abbas now wants back on the table.

As agreed in the Oslo Accords, the IDF never entered Area A of the West Bank - where all the refugee camps are. The 2nd intifada broke out in 2000, shortly after Arafat had turned down the peace deal negotiated by Clinton. For two years of that catastrophe the IDF stayed out of Area A, leaving it to the PA security service to do the job they were supposed to do. Unfortunately, that service were unable or unwilling to eradicate the violence, most of which originated inside the refugee camps. So in went the IDF and eventually, after more bloodshed, the situation was brought under control and the intifada ended having achieved nothing positive but a lot negative. The repercussions of it are still felt today by both people, both psychologically and physically, with the erection of the security barrier for instance. When the first terrorist attacks in the current wave occurred earlier this year I said on here that there was no chance of the IDF allowing the situation to fester for two years as they did in the 2nd intifada - they would go straight in and try to eradicate the terror cells. That's precisely what they've done.

The current wave of terror is being funded by Iran and incited by their proxies, Hamas and Islamic Jihad. The purpose is not just to attack Israel but to undermine the Pa - Abbas is 87, he can't have too much longer left and a power struggle looks certain to arise after his demise. The more the PA can be discredited in the eyes of the people the better it will be for their political opponents, Hamas.

How do we know that Iran are funding the terror? Because they boasted about it : "Just as we armed Gaza so we are now arming the West Bank."

If the PA had done the job required of them by Oslo - disarming all armed militias and preventing the formation of replacements - the IDF would never have to enter any of Area A or any refugee camp.
 
I’m saying that pre 1900 (roughly) the entire area was pretty much Palestine. They’ve now been left with a few scraps and losing more by the day.

Israel’s right to exist seems to be at the expense of palestines.

No one can look at Palestine 1890 and today snd not think something is horribly wrong

Please don’t come back with your “they were offered such and such by so and so” lands in the past. They should not have to negotiate their own lands, much like Ukraine today.
Okay - so do you believe Israel has the right to exist? Be honest - this is a civilised conversation, it's fine to disagee. Much better than an echo chamber!
 
Hebron is 'kin crazy, and the settlers there are the craziest. Its not typical.

The above is a worrying development though.
All very sad.

Got to say, though, Hebron is one of my favourite cities in the world, a fascinating place to visit. No need to go anywhere near the conflict zone, unless you want to visit the Cave of the Patriarchs - the reason for the almost unbroken (other than when they were murdered or expelled) Jewish presence for 2000 years. Hence its special status under the Oslo Accords.

A typically bustling, slightly mad Arab city, full of narrow alleyways and noise. Doesn't get anything like the number of tourists as Jerusalem or Bethlehem or even Jericho. Sadly there's been a lot of clan violence there for the last 18 months.
 
All very sad.

Got to say, though, Hebron is one of my favourite cities in the world, a fascinating place to visit. No need to go anywhere near the conflict zone, unless you want to visit the Cave of the Patriarchs - the reason for the almost unbroken (other than when they were murdered or expelled) Jewish presence for 2000 years. Hence its special status under the Oslo Accords.

A typically bustling, slightly mad Arab city, full of narrow alleyways and noise. Doesn't get anything like the number of tourists as Jerusalem or Bethlehem or even Jericho. Sadly there's been a lot of clan violence there for the last 18 months.
My dad and an aunt on my mum's side have been there a couple of times as international observers. They saw some pretty awful stuff. Settlers throwing rocks at little kids on their way to school,. Rubbish and excrement being tipped on Palestinians from windows. Soldiers just bullying Palestinian women for entertainment. From what understand, the current Jewish presence their is because a small group of extremist settlers got permission to stay there overnight to celebrate one of the Jewish religious festivals, my apologies for forgetting which one, then they just refused to leave, and there has been something of a war of attrition there since.
I also know it's extremely symbolic because of the massacre of 69 Jews there in 1929, which the racist mass-murderer Baruch Goldstein saw himself as avenging in 1994.

Ugh what a screwed-up, intractable conflict. I feel depressed after writing this post.
 
My dad and an aunt on my mum's side have been there a couple of times as international observers. They saw some pretty awful stuff. Settlers throwing rocks at little kids on their way to school,. Rubbish and excrement being tipped on Palestinians from windows. Soldiers just bullying Palestinian women for entertainment. From what understand, the current Jewish presence their is because a small group of extremist settlers got permission to stay there overnight to celebrate one of the Jewish religious festivals, my apologies for forgetting which one, then they just refused to leave, and there has been something of a war of attrition there since.
I also know it's extremely symbolic because of the massacre of 69 Jews there in 1929, which the racist mass-murderer Baruch Goldstein saw himself as avenging in 1994.

Ugh what a screwed-up, intractable conflict. I feel depressed after writing this post.
Bigmick will blame the pesky natives for this
 
Why are there still refugee camps after 75 years? Accountability lies not with Israel, but with the corrupt Palestinian leaders.

The phrase 'refugee camps' conjures up images on tented villages or tin shacks - the Palestinian camps are more like large neighbourhoods or towns. They are administered by the Palestinian Authority and provisioned by UNRWA (United Nations Relief and Works Agency - a unique organisation devoted solely to the Palestinians). Unlike other refugee populations, the Palestinian refugees have remained in camps for some three generations without resettlement. The number of refugees eligible for aid from UNRWA has ballooned over the years, from 750,000 to over 5,000,000, because they include not just people who left what is now Israel, but also their descendants. In the West Bank there are 870,000 who qualify as refugees, 1.5 million in Gaza. The rest are scattered all over the world with other camps found in Jordan, Lebanon, where conditions are the worst, and Syria, although no-one knows how many Assad killed in the civil war.

Israel demolished all of its Arab refugee camps in the early 1950s and gave their Arab refugees full rights as citizens of the new state. Shortly after the 6-Day War (1967), when Israel occupied Gaza, they built several thousand apartment buildings in Gaza, based on the Israeli housing standards of the day and offered them to refugee camp residents free of charge. The PLO leadership threatened that any family moving into one of these apartments would lose their refugee status. Consequently the buildings stood empty until after the signing of the Oslo Accords when Israeli troops were withdrawn and Arafat and the PLO entered. The apartments were quickly allotted to middle and lower-ranked PLO members and their families. Those families didn’t lose their refugee status.
Similarly, in the mid-20th century, Arab countries driving Jews out resulted in a larger Middle Eastern Jewish refugee population than the entire Palestinian refugee population. Where are these Jews now? Absorbed into the general population more than 50 years ago.

It's not as if the PA have been unable to afford replace the camps with decent housing - they've received billions in aid, much of it siphoned off by corrupt leaders, starting with the billionaire Arafat and continuing under Abbas and his cronies.

In those 75 years there has been just one new town constructed, Rawabi, courtesy of a local millionaire. But that was aimed more at the upper-middle class and wealthy Israeli-Arabs seeking a second home - no thought of providing homes for the poor. Similarly the Jericho Gate development I stayed in earlier this year - wonderful, with swimming pools in every garden, but not built to house people from the nearby refugee camps. Take a look at a map of Jericho - there's plenty of room for new housing developments, the money is there, but there's no intention of rehousing the poor.

There's another impressive development underway on the outskirts of Jerusalem, Lana.

https://thisweekinpalestine.com/lana-neighborhood/

It's aimed at "professionals from a wide spectrum of fields – including medical, legal, educational, technology, tourism and management – as , as well as embassy and NGO staff." Can't imagine any of that lot wanting to rub shoulders with some poor family from Shu'fat camp.

The camps themselves vary quite a lot. The two around Jericho are more spacious than most, but others are cramped, especially those in the big cities, with houses squashed together. Housing is shoddy, there are usually no parks for children to play in, pushing community life out into the surreally narrow streets. There are few jobs to keep youths busy, and even the EU admit the camps have become breeding grounds for terror and incitement. drugs and petty crime are rife, the PA security often afraid to enter. Qalandiya camp is probably the easiest to see as it is close to the busy checkpoint between Ramallah and Jerusalem. The camps are certainly impoverished but if you want to see real poverty, try the backstreets of somewhere like Cairo - far worse as they don't have the benefit of a dedicated UN agency looking after them - UNRWA provide free schooling, medical care and social security payments.

Generations of people have been sold out by leaders who have used them as political pawns and created the impasse by promising them they will one day be able to return to the homes of their grandparents, or even great-grandparents. To mislead them like that is an act of cruelty. It will never happen, as in private many Palestinian leaders acknowledge - those that have admitted it in public, though, including Abbas, have been quickly forced to retract by right-wing hardliners

Dr. Nasser Al-Lahham, editor of the Ma'an Palestinian news agency, wrote an editorial about refugee camps which included this revealing quote:
"The camps are not a problem for anyone. It is always the solution. They are the tanks of the revolution and the ships of return. And whoever does not like that, this is his personal problem."

In other words, the refugee camps are weapons - the residents are cannon fodder. They always have been. Their purpose is to keep people in squalid looking living spaces so that the media can sometimes take photos of them and say "poor people, all because of Israel." There is no desire to dismantle the camps because the misery of the residents is "not a problem" - it is the goal.

Israel should take its share of the blame for the origin of the refugee camps, but remember that there would have been no war had the Arabs accepted the offer that Mahmoud Abbas now wants back on the table.

As agreed in the Oslo Accords, the IDF never entered Area A of the West Bank - where all the refugee camps are. The 2nd intifada broke out in 2000, shortly after Arafat had turned down the peace deal negotiated by Clinton. For two years of that catastrophe the IDF stayed out of Area A, leaving it to the PA security service to do the job they were supposed to do. Unfortunately, that service were unable or unwilling to eradicate the violence, most of which originated inside the refugee camps. So in went the IDF and eventually, after more bloodshed, the situation was brought under control and the intifada ended having achieved nothing positive but a lot negative. The repercussions of it are still felt today by both people, both psychologically and physically, with the erection of the security barrier for instance. When the first terrorist attacks in the current wave occurred earlier this year I said on here that there was no chance of the IDF allowing the situation to fester for two years as they did in the 2nd intifada - they would go straight in and try to eradicate the terror cells. That's precisely what they've done.

The current wave of terror is being funded by Iran and incited by their proxies, Hamas and Islamic Jihad. The purpose is not just to attack Israel but to undermine the Pa - Abbas is 87, he can't have too much longer left and a power struggle looks certain to arise after his demise. The more the PA can be discredited in the eyes of the people the better it will be for their political opponents, Hamas.

How do we know that Iran are funding the terror? Because they boasted about it : "Just as we armed Gaza so we are now arming the West Bank."

If the PA had done the job required of them by Oslo - disarming all armed militias and preventing the formation of replacements - the IDF would never have to enter any of Area A or any refugee camp.
No Balfour,no refugee camps
No settlers, no refugee camps
 
All very sad.

Got to say, though, Hebron is one of my favourite cities in the world, a fascinating place to visit. No need to go anywhere near the conflict zone, unless you want to visit the Cave of the Patriarchs - the reason for the almost unbroken (other than when they were murdered or expelled) Jewish presence for 2000 years. Hence its special status under the Oslo Accords.

A typically bustling, slightly mad Arab city, full of narrow alleyways and noise. Doesn't get anything like the number of tourists as Jerusalem or Bethlehem or even Jericho. Sadly there's been a lot of clan violence there for the last 18 months.
I’d effging love to go

Is it safe?

I’ve got a travel west list
Iraq
Iran
Afghan
Syria
Palestine

None are particularly easy destinations
 
Bigmick will blame the pesky natives for this
I think Mick's wife is Palestinian, IIRC. I think he's pretty balanced and well-informed and I find his posts incredibly informative, even if I don't always entirely agree with his takes. Arguing online about this conflict is about as soul-destroying and pointless a pursuit as I've ever found so I tend not to bother. I end up doing it with my Dad's partner often enough, as she just sees Israel as an entirely evil entity and in my mind crosses the line into antisemitism fairly regularly.
 
I think Mick's wife is Palestinian, IIRC. I think he's pretty balanced and well-informed and I find his posts incredibly informative, even if I don't always entirely agree with his takes. Arguing online about this conflict is about as soul-destroying and pointless a pursuit as I've ever found so I tend not to bother. I end up doing it with my Dad's partner often enough, as she just sees Israel as an entirely evil entity and in my mind crosses the line into antisemitism fairly regularly.
I find mick leans heavily on the Israeli take. He is very informative, but not without prejudice I feel.

I’ve discussed Palestine at length on line for years, and yes, it’s futile. The truth does need telling though.
 
I've said it before...

While I appreciate the Israeli situation and desire/will to protect itself, they appear to have morphed into the bully victim that becomes a bully itself.

The right to exist does not equate to the right to commit the atrocities that they do. However, they act as the US's/West's balance and check to Arab world.

That's why so many turn a blind to their actions. I ain't an expert on the situation, far from it, but it's difficult to not be aghast at many of the actions of the state.
 
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