Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[mightymoyes]

Yeah I knew, and know what response any comment that doesn’t follow the official tagline would do. It’s why I never post and why I am not going to get into any back and forth now.

Responders also have no idea what my stance is part from its different to theirs… so it’s easier to slag one off than to answer the one question I asked:
Why has the official government of Gaza not released the hostages ?

the same reason the official govt of Israel hasn't released all their Palestinian hostages?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Thanks mate for a reasonable response… honestly appreciated…which is why I’m asking now to follow on: what do they think Israel is going to do to get them back? Open the border? Break down the wall? Stop building settlements? Pay $100m to the leaders of Hamas sitting in their penthouses in Qatar?

All it does is give them something to celebrate for 1 day, before they again have given Israel cause to clamp down even harder. The cycle continues. Israel fight back and will tighten controls, more innocent people die in Gaza, another generation of Hamas supporters are born and on we go.

Violence never leads to peace. Hamas have given Israel no reason to believe they want peace or trust them if they say they do. They have never accepted Israel’s right of existence even. As long as they are the ones controlling Gaza, Israel will always have the checkpoints, control the port etc etc.

Worse still, and showing their motives and lack of anything like empathy for what they have caused the Hamas leadership have made statements on TV that the terror attacks such as that carried out on the 7th will not stop. That there will be a third and fourth such attack. You have to ask given what recently happened how can Israel ignore this?

If Hamas did not have Iran/Russias support Palestinians would most likely not be facing this absolute hellish catastrophe.

Someone mentioned that Gaza voted to have Hamas as their government but when was that and has there been a democratic process since?

I am sorry to say that Gazans, like Iranians and Russians are under the boot of a mafia and these geomobs are all connected.

 

[Blue 1]

Yeah I knew, and know what response any comment that doesn’t follow the official tagline would do. It’s why I never post and why I am not going to get into any back and forth now.

Responders also have no idea what my stance is part from its different to theirs… so it’s easier to slag one off than to answer the one question I asked:
Why has the official government of Gaza not released the hostages ?

Because they want some of their own hostages released as part of the bargain.

Israel has not agreed to this. Yet.

It's grim though, and I hope they're home sooner rather than later, and as unharmed as can be hoped for.

 

[dublinbluenose]

 

[mightymoyes]

And people still fall for their lies

 

[Wat Tyler]

 

[ramacca]

The same guy went into the MRI area and said, I just found a grab bag with weapons in it.

This was supposed to be Hamas's HQ. If an unattended bag was left at a bus stop in say, Tel Aviv, they'd evacuate the area and send in the specialists bomb disposal teams with robots, in case it was a bomb. This is what happens when they go into a 'hostile village'.

"In the heart of the hostile villages: the deadly Israeli robot of the special units Israel today - The Limited Times" https://newsrnd.com/news/2021-12-19...he-special-units-israel-today.rybFlZvhcK.html


But the guy in the video just walks around finding things. A brigadier general on channel 4 news just said, the tunnel system would be booby trapped. But not the Hamas HQ in the hospital, which, we are told is the centre of their tunnel network.

It never was Hamas infiltrated or anything and they knew it. But it's part of the intimidation, humiliation and suffering the IDF wants to impose on Palestinians in order to re-occupy Gaza. The IDFs PR bull has fallen flat on its backside.

 

[dublinbluenose]

IDF has announced it killed the head of Hamas's rocket firing array this week in a missile attack.

Thats the 3rd time he has been killed in the last 6 weeks.

 

[coollino]

IDF has announced it killed the head of Hamas's rocket firing array this week in a missile attack.

Thats the 3rd time he has been killed in the last 6 weeks.

Well, as we know, they are actually very good at killing people

 

[tsubaki]

If anyone wants to skip the past couple of hundred pages, here is the debate in the British media since October 7th encapsulated in one interview.

Take it away, Peter Oborne:

 

[Blue 1]

 

[Wat Tyler]

 

[davek]

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38 days is not enough for Starmer and Sunak and the US leaders. They're all complicit in handing the Israelis 6 weeks to get the ethnic cleansing done...THEN they'll cynically call for a ceasefire.

That's how disgusting they are.

Honest to God, anyone voting for that lot need to throw themselves in a bin and stay there.

 

[Goat]

38 days is not enough for Starmer and Sunak and the US leaders. They're all complicit in handing the Israelis 6 weeks to get the ethnic cleansing done...THEN they'll cynically call for a ceasefire.

That's how disgusting they are.

Honest to God, anyone voting for that lot need to throw themselves in a bin and stay there.

Starmer has ZERO sway with Israel.

As I said, the virtue signalling is over, its time for action.

 

[davek]

Starmer has ZERO sway with Israel.

As I said, the virtue signalling is over, its time for action.

Your leader. Own it