Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[davek]

The best summary of those questions is here dave: https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/a-gr...d-military-deaths-following-october-7-attack/

... but in short you cannot easily fake death numbers in modern society - people can check how many funerals there has been, death certificates and so on. What you can fake is the circumstances of those deaths. By that I do not mean Hamas has no responsibility for the people who died - they wouldn't have died without the Hamas attack, after all - but the lurid reports of burning / explosion related deaths at the hands of Hamas should be regarded with suspicion.

Interesting read. Thanks.

We'll never see that on the BBC.

 

[mightymoyes]

 

[tantavisiteler]

 

[ramacca]

The architect of the Nakba, US President Truman.



With people's genuine concern for how Jewish people were treated. Truman was instrumental in choicing Palestine. It was in the US Empire's interests'.

Recognition of Israel | Harry S. Truman

www.trumanlibrary.gov

 

[ramacca]

Countering Israel propaganda which is allowed to be repeated constantly unchallenged in the western MSM.

 

[Wat Tyler]

I think once all this blows over it'll have been significantly less than that figure too.

In the hundreds certainly...and a terrible loss of life...a massacre. But the Israeli government have been spinning this 1,400 number and it's being questioned a lot now.

More than likely the Palestinian losses right now are going to be well over the 10,000 recorded. It's probably nearer 15,000-20,000.

I always find it interesting how when it’s Palestinian dead it’s always “Hamas run ministry say x dead,” but when it concerns the Israelis it’s treated as fact “xxxx slaughtered and beheaded and disembowelled”

 

[d34noj]

not sure thats fair.
I think, in this war, the IDF have taken brutality to a whole new level.
It's fairly straight forward to separate the Jew or Israeli from Bibis war.
Just like it was to separate the brit or yank from Bush and Blairs invasion of Iraq

It's not 'fair' in the same way as being branded islamophobic mate. I was simply stating it swings both ways.

Nobody mentioned religion, even though it's the entire crux of the war.

All of this 'playing down' of the atrocities of October 7th in here doesn't sit right with me so I'm out.

 

[Wat Tyler]

The architect of the Nakba, US President Truman.



With people's genuine concern for how Jewish people were treated. Truman was instrumental in choicing Palestine. It was in the US Empire's interests'.

Recognition of Israel | Harry S. Truman

www.trumanlibrary.gov

Same psychopath who launched the two only nukes in history wiping out a quarter of a million people.

 

[Mrbluenose]

Same psychopath who launched the two only nukes in history wiping out a quarter of a million people.

What an idiotic take on history, it was them or us.

 

[Eggs]

….Rochdale cenotaph daubed with ‘Free Palestine’ and poppies apparently taken from Whitehall. They really aren’t doing themselves a favour and Starmer needs to stand firm with Western leaders.

 

[davek]

I always find it interesting how when it’s Palestinian dead it’s always “Hamas run ministry say x dead,” but when it concerns the Israelis it’s treated as fact “xxxx slaughtered and beheaded and disembowelled”

Dont forget the other British media lackey line: "Hamas - designated a terror organisation by the UK Government - say that 10,000 have now died"

A co-ordinated effort by the UK Government and UK media to sanction a genocide in Gaza.

 

[ramacca]

All of a sudden it's 'Rememberance weekend'. To coincide with the march on Saturday, which the Tories want to ban, but are finding it difficult to do.

But the real intention of all the kerfaffle is to whip up the fascism mob. The Tories Brown Shirts. They want trouble to give them the 'excuse' to stop marches against the genocidal intent of the IDF.

"Tommy Robinson calls on his followers to 'protect' Cenotaph" https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/n...-protesters-that-wont-even-be-near-it-362586/

 

[Charro]

….Rochdale cenotaph daubed with ‘Free Palestine’ and poppies apparently taken from Whitehall. They really aren’t doing themselves a favour and Starmer needs to stand firm with Western leaders.

Are you willing to retract your statement of the poppy seller being “beaten up”?

 

[Blue 1]

….Rochdale cenotaph daubed with ‘Free Palestine’ and poppies apparently taken from Whitehall. They really aren’t doing themselves a favour and Starmer needs to stand firm with Western leaders.

Some tossers sprayed "Free Palestine" on a war memorial, which is grim, so Starmer should continue to encourage genocide and the further occupation of stolen land?

Seems like a non-sequitur to me. I don't follow.

 

[Eggs]

Are you willing to retract your statement of the poppy seller being “beaten up”?

…absolutely, if that’s the case. I think I mentioned it needs to be verified but I’ve been busy and hadn’t seen anything since yesterday. Shameful if he wasn’t beaten up.

I take no sides on this, the whole episode is totally sad and totally unnecessary. I do think, however, that the best chance of resolution is through diplomacy and that means seeking humanitarian pause whilst speaking to Israel behind the scenes. Starmer is doing exactly the right thing standing with Western leaders.