Is Premier League Boring?

[Cake]

I think the referees do their bit to keep the crowds entertained.

 

[kenada_blue]

I’m talking about in the world, not the current Roma equivalent. Suggesting Totti is more popular than messi is a bit silly.

I wasn't but the nostalgia angle adding rose tinted lenses works to some extent but sometimes great players are great players that transcend eras - whether per club or world.

Maradona did. Messi will. Ronaldo will. Both of the last two peaked before robot football took over.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Honestly Pep has done damage to the entertainment value of the pl.

Wenger too as the games gone soft since he's been working with FIFA

 

[Delargeinho]

I actually think it’s quite an exciting time for the league. That ‘big six’ dominance has gone. Newcastle won the League Cup, I see Villa winning the FA Cup with both in the Champions league. Forest in Europe too.

It’s a group of teams we absolutely have to get involved with in the next season or two.

Teams like Arsenal and Chelsea that been consistently in the CL for years struggled to find their way back to CL football and needed a few years tho.

Will this happen to city too, in case they miss out of CL?

 

[Lanolin]

I wasn't but the nostalgia angle adding rose tinted lenses works to some extent but sometimes great players are great players that transcend eras - whether per club or world.

Maradona did. Messi will. Ronaldo will. Both of the last two peaked before robot football took over.

But the point was just that some of those names resonate because of the time they were playing, not necessarily because they were actually better footballers and that AT THE TIME there will have been people saying nah he’s not as good as X, in much the same way as in 20 years people might view current players through a different prism to how we do now.

 

[NathDogg]

Honestly Pep has done damage to the entertainment value of the pl.

Every team trying to pass the ball to death from the back absolutely bores the snot out of me, and it’s all due to pep.

Wenger too as the games gone soft since he's been working with FIFA

Spot on, find this proper weird as he had some right dirty barstewards in his Arsenal teams, and they got away with bloody murder.

Can’t tackle anymore, and players rolling around like they’ve been shot from every touch or contact, but then proper fouls are left alone.

 

[kenada_blue]

But the point was just that some of those names resonate because of the time they were playing, not necessarily because they were actually better footballers and that AT THE TIME there will have been people saying nah he’s not as good as X, in much the same way as in 20 years people might view current players through a different prism to how we do now.

Oh that happens regardless.

Give it a decade and Messi will get questioned.

 

[Bluerover]

Maybe just nostalgia but when I watch Rugby League on TV I see the game getting played by men hammering each other with tackle after tackle coming and them getting up and getting on with the game— no feigning injuries, no harassing the referee, decisions explained on the field and playing for a decent wage not the ridiculous money paid to these mostly mamby pamby grown up but still childish brats.

Hurling. Gaelic Football. Aussie Rules.

Feign injury and you are ignored and then despised.

If a player stays down in these sports it's because he literally can't get up.

 

[evertony]

VAR is a huge turn-off, though. It's now a narrative tool of the authorities to generate contrived controversy. That and the pricing out of anybody other than the slightly insane has turned me away. Subscriptions are simply not worth the money. The "content" is not that compelling.

There's also a generation gap developing for me. I'm 52 now and find it harder and harder to relate to many of the players of today. I think that's natural, to a point, but I think the fact that pretty much every top-flight player is a millionnaire increases any natural gap to a chasm. These are no longer "working-class" or even "middle-class" heroes. They are, very often, entitled privileged content providers.

The latter stages of the Champions League - the highest standard of world football - are often superb. But not always. We were spoiled for a while there over the previous decade. Yet, it's hard to cheer even against the PL clubs with the same passion as before when the alternative is to support the deeply malign presidents of Barcelona and Real Madrid and the human rights-abusing despots that run PSG.

So, it's the World Cup and Euros for me - where the superstars can be rightly judged on how effective they are at dragging more ordinary players to glory instead of being surrounded by other mercenary superstars at elite club level. Yet, even those glorious tournaments have now been turned into Frankenstein's monsters, so bloated they have become in the service of votes for FIFA and UEFA presidential campaigns...

The Big Match Revisited it is, then.

Brilliant post Drico

 

[evertony]

The first 70 minutes of that game was one the most boring football experiences of my life. Drab, dull football. You get these proper nerds who are all like "the passing lanes are opened up by movement of the false 6, and upside down 9 allowing the ball rotation to alternate between the pivot and the fulcrum. Its an absolute joy to watch the ball mastery of the players"

Bore off you little mings. Picked last at school cause they struggled to kick a ball more than 3 yards.

I remember when football was a battle of wits and desire, when application was a great leveller. These coaches, like Arteta who encourage players to go down to waste time and allow ad hoc coaching sessions/water breaks. Players who "feel a touch" and crumple to the floor, plenty of which happened yesterday. Its embarrassing.

The FA though. They're the absolute worst. The football they're forcing onto kids these days is all about getting kids playing the same style of football. 3v3 from next year at u7s, no 11v11 until u14s, 5v5 until u9. Load of rubbish.

I think I feel worse about it because I was never a flair player, but I'd win every tackle that was 60/40 in their favour and I'd run further than anybody else on the pitch. My game was win it and move it on. I had a decent range of passing and a good header, but I had no tricks up my sleeve, we had other players to do that. What they're creating is a cookie cutter player, everybody becoming the same player on a pitch. An entire team of me would be awful, but something a great team couldn't do without. I do think that our national team will go backwards because of this unhealthy obessesion with tika taka 'pepball'.

The passion is being removed from the game at an alarming rate, and they're not seeing it cause they measure passion in pound sterling.

Great post

 

[Roachey11]

It’s as dull as I can ever remember; nothing to play for at either end and half the league will be in Europe next year anyway. Barely any good games to watch, majority of atmospheres have nosedived and VAR is atrocious.

 

[9LeagueTitles5FACups]

It’s as dull as I can ever remember; nothing to play for at either end and half the league will be in Europe next year anyway. Barely any good games to watch, majority of atmospheres have nosedived and VAR is atrocious.

Whilst it may benefit us in the coming seasons, I would rather see fewer teams qualify for Europe. Playing in the high echelons on European football should carry prestige and ought to be earned. Finishing fifth and getting into the 'Champions' League diminishes the prestige of the competition.

 

[SJB]

I watched United v Newcastle and Villa v Newcastle recently, they weren't boring games. Everton are boring coz we're lacking in quality but other matches can still be entertaining.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Whilst it may benefit us in the coming seasons, I would rather see fewer teams qualify for Europe. Playing in the high echelons on European football should carry prestige and ought to be earned. Finishing fifth and getting into the 'Champions' League diminishes the prestige of the competition.

It's a farce which is made worse when either Man Utd or Spurs can win the secondary europa league and qualify for the 'elite' 'champions' league despite finishing near the bottom of the league. Then there's the PSR cheats Chelsea getting a big money boost from the World Club Cup in the summer despite being poor in the Premier League 3 years running. It makes the game hard to rake seriously in all honesty

 

[Rita_Poon]

There's a double standard here. There's a leicester fan said today they're happy the relegation is done and finally the wait is over. It's difficult being pummelled with bad result after bad result and shoddy performances. It saps the fun out of the event and it becomes a chore more than a spectacle to enjoy. We've been on the end of a lot of turmoil and it's not seen much enjoyment, we've had the new ground to cling onto as the one line of hope in this mess until Moyes turned up and put some of the matches in the right side of the tally chart.

When it's all doom and gloom, it becomes tired and the support gets narked quick. There has to be a bit of hope, some light somewhere. When it's hopeless it's easier to call it a day and switch off.