Is Premier League Boring?

[MACCA75]

I actually think it’s quite an exciting time for the league. That ‘big six’ dominance has gone. Newcastle won the League Cup, I see Villa winning the FA Cup with both in the Champions league. Forest in Europe too.

It’s a group of teams we absolutely have to get involved with in the next season or two.

 

[Jacko93]

The first 70 minutes of that game was one the most boring football experiences of my life. Drab, dull football. You get these proper nerds who are all like "the passing lanes are opened up by movement of the false 6, and upside down 9 allowing the ball rotation to alternate between the pivot and the fulcrum. Its an absolute joy to watch the ball mastery of the players"

Bore off you little mings. Picked last at school cause they struggled to kick a ball more than 3 yards.

I remember when football was a battle of wits and desire, when application was a great leveller. These coaches, like Arteta who encourage players to go down to waste time and allow ad hoc coaching sessions/water breaks. Players who "feel a touch" and crumple to the floor, plenty of which happened yesterday. Its embarrassing.

The FA though. They're the absolute worst. The football they're forcing onto kids these days is all about getting kids playing the same style of football. 3v3 from next year at u7s, no 11v11 until u14s, 5v5 until u9. Load of rubbish.

I think I feel worse about it because I was never a flair player, but I'd win every tackle that was 60/40 in their favour and I'd run further than anybody else on the pitch. My game was win it and move it on. I had a decent range of passing and a good header, but I had no tricks up my sleeve, we had other players to do that. What they're creating is a cookie cutter player, everybody becoming the same player on a pitch. An entire team of me would be awful, but something a great team couldn't do without. I do think that our national team will go backwards because of this unhealthy obessesion with tika taka 'pepball'.

The passion is being removed from the game at an alarming rate, and they're not seeing it cause they measure passion in pound sterling.

 

[Cameron Manning]

It's been boring this season in the sense that there's not going to be much drama in the last few weeks, but I'm not sure I agree with the general 'it was so different in my day' sentiment. Just typical nostalgia talking that I think.

Maybe just nostalgia but when I watch Rugby League on TV I see the game getting played by men hammering each other with tackle after tackle coming and them getting up and getting on with the game— no feigning injuries, no harassing the referee, decisions explained on the field and playing for a decent wage not the ridiculous money paid to these mostly mamby pamby grown up but still childish brats.

 

[Lanolin]

Maybe just nostalgia but when I watch Rugby League on TV I see the game getting played by men hammering each other with tackle after tackle coming and them getting up and getting on with the game— no feigning injuries, no harassing the referee, decisions explained on the field and playing for a decent wage not the ridiculous money paid to these mostly mamby pamby grown up but still childish brats.

Virtually everybody I know who follows rugby league says it’s nothing like the game it used to be, so that maybe proves the point I suppose.

 

[PITA]

Some of that really is just nostalgia though, players and teams from a certain period in your life/world history take on an extra resonance. You can bet that at the exact time those players were in that league, there will have been discussions between arl fellas in the bars of Milan and Rome about how football wasn't the same and Totti and Inzaghi weren't fit to lace the boots of Rossi and Antognoni. It was ever thus.

Agreed. In fact if you watch old matches it was quite boring with all the back passing to the keeper.

 

[twoblue]

The first 70 minutes of that game was one the most boring football experiences of my life. Drab, dull football. You get these proper nerds who are all like "the passing lanes are opened up by movement of the false 6, and upside down 9 allowing the ball rotation to alternate between the pivot and the fulcrum. Its an absolute joy to watch the ball mastery of the players"

Bore off you little mings. Picked last at school cause they struggled to kick a ball more than 3 yards.

I remember when football was a battle of wits and desire, when application was a great leveller. These coaches, like Arteta who encourage players to go down to waste time and allow ad hoc coaching sessions/water breaks. Players who "feel a touch" and crumple to the floor, plenty of which happened yesterday. Its embarrassing.

The FA though. They're the absolute worst. The football they're forcing onto kids these days is all about getting kids playing the same style of football. 3v3 from next year at u7s, no 11v11 until u14s, 5v5 until u9. Load of rubbish.

I think I feel worse about it because I was never a flair player, but I'd win every tackle that was 60/40 in their favour and I'd run further than anybody else on the pitch. My game was win it and move it on. I had a decent range of passing and a good header, but I had no tricks up my sleeve, we had other players to do that. What they're creating is a cookie cutter player, everybody becoming the same player on a pitch. An entire team of me would be awful, but something a great team couldn't do without. I do think that our national team will go backwards because of this unhealthy obessesion with tika taka 'pepball'.

The passion is being removed from the game at an alarming rate, and they're not seeing it cause they measure passion in pound sterling.

it’s not about the kids playing the same. It’s about them developing, having more touches of the ball. Fact when I was a kid I played 11 a side and it was dominated by the biggest kids of that age. One lad I played with like an adult at 12. He was the same size at 18. Getting kids comfortable on the ball is the most important thing in football… add the effort and endeavour you had to that makes better footballers.
End of the day, it’s million to one shot however the kids play football.
It’s money that’s made the game boring, the game is about profit not glory. The aims of too many teams is staying in the league and trading players for profit.

not the grassroots system.

 

[Jebus_lives]

The first 70 minutes of that game was one the most boring football experiences of my life. Drab, dull football. You get these proper nerds who are all like "the passing lanes are opened up by movement of the false 6, and upside down 9 allowing the ball rotation to alternate between the pivot and the fulcrum. Its an absolute joy to watch the ball mastery of the players"

Bore off you little mings. Picked last at school cause they struggled to kick a ball more than 3 yards.

I remember when football was a battle of wits and desire, when application was a great leveller. These coaches, like Arteta who encourage players to go down to waste time and allow ad hoc coaching sessions/water breaks. Players who "feel a touch" and crumple to the floor, plenty of which happened yesterday. Its embarrassing.

The FA though. They're the absolute worst. The football they're forcing onto kids these days is all about getting kids playing the same style of football. 3v3 from next year at u7s, no 11v11 until u14s, 5v5 until u9. Load of rubbish.

I think I feel worse about it because I was never a flair player, but I'd win every tackle that was 60/40 in their favour and I'd run further than anybody else on the pitch. My game was win it and move it on. I had a decent range of passing and a good header, but I had no tricks up my sleeve, we had other players to do that. What they're creating is a cookie cutter player, everybody becoming the same player on a pitch. An entire team of me would be awful, but something a great team couldn't do without. I do think that our national team will go backwards because of this unhealthy obessesion with tika taka 'pepball'.

The passion is being removed from the game at an alarming rate, and they're not seeing it cause they measure passion in pound sterling.

The national team has won nothing since 1966. The closest the national team have come to winning anything is the last 5 years.

The point of the 3v3 is to give more time on the pitch and the ball, to under 7s. I think the difficulty will be the lack of coaches to facilitate, but more time on the ball is a good thing surely?

 

[Richard Alex]

The league is boring especially watching teams like Man City slowing the game down. Pass, pass, pass. Yawn,yawn yawn.
Also the same old refs making the same old bent decisions to the same old bent clubs.
Don’t even get me started on VAR.
PSR designed to keep the status quo every season. Bent rules from the bent premier league. They all should be investigated.
Too bloody right the premier league is boring.

 

[kenada_blue]

Some of that really is just nostalgia though, players and teams from a certain period in your life/world history take on an extra resonance. You can bet that at the exact time those players were in that league, there will have been discussions between arl fellas in the bars of Milan and Rome about how football wasn't the same and Totti and Inzaghi weren't fit to lace the boots of Rossi and Antognoni. It was ever thus.

I dunno. Totti and Inzaghi still get mobbed by their fans of all ages.

 

[Lanolin]

I dunno. Totti and Inzaghi still get mobbed by their fans of all ages.

And current players don’t?

 

[kenada_blue]

And current players don’t?

Compared to them?

No where near.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

The first 70 minutes of that game was one the most boring football experiences of my life. Drab, dull football. You get these proper nerds who are all like "the passing lanes are opened up by movement of the false 6, and upside down 9 allowing the ball rotation to alternate between the pivot and the fulcrum. Its an absolute joy to watch the ball mastery of the players"

Bore off you little mings. Picked last at school cause they struggled to kick a ball more than 3 yards.

I remember when football was a battle of wits and desire, when application was a great leveller. These coaches, like Arteta who encourage players to go down to waste time and allow ad hoc coaching sessions/water breaks. Players who "feel a touch" and crumple to the floor, plenty of which happened yesterday. Its embarrassing.

The FA though. They're the absolute worst. The football they're forcing onto kids these days is all about getting kids playing the same style of football. 3v3 from next year at u7s, no 11v11 until u14s, 5v5 until u9. Load of rubbish.

I think I feel worse about it because I was never a flair player, but I'd win every tackle that was 60/40 in their favour and I'd run further than anybody else on the pitch. My game was win it and move it on. I had a decent range of passing and a good header, but I had no tricks up my sleeve, we had other players to do that. What they're creating is a cookie cutter player, everybody becoming the same player on a pitch. An entire team of me would be awful, but something a great team couldn't do without. I do think that our national team will go backwards because of this unhealthy obessesion with tika taka 'pepball'.

The passion is being removed from the game at an alarming rate, and they're not seeing it cause they measure passion in pound sterling.

Really grinds my gears when players get booked or sent off when they win the ball but the follow through catches the player. Obviously if its out of control and wild then that needs stamping out (no pun intended) but now you see players sent off with a in control follow through (Jags against Wolves on the opening day on Silva and Richarlison debut always springs to mind)

 

[Lanolin]

Compared to them?

No where near.

I’m talking about in the world, not the current Roma equivalent. Suggesting Totti is more popular than messi is a bit silly.

 

[Jacko93]

it’s not about the kids playing the same. It’s about them developing, having more touches of the ball. Fact when I was a kid I played 11 a side and it was dominated by the biggest kids of that age. One lad I played with like an adult at 12. He was the same size at 18. Getting kids comfortable on the ball is the most important thing in football… add the effort and endeavour you had to that makes better footballers.
End of the day, it’s million to one shot however the kids play football.
It’s money that’s made the game boring, the game is about profit not glory. The aims of too many teams is staying in the league and trading players for profit.

not the grassroots system.

The grassroots system isn't making football worse, the money and singular ideologies is making the grassroots worse.

I played 11-a-side, full size pitch at u7s and all the way through, that's probably what's wrecked my knees. I recognise the need for smaller format games, but 3v3 is a training session, and should remain as that. In my opinion of course. 5v5 you have a team of 9 in many cases, thats a training session of 3v3v3, if you want 3v3, run a round Robin for an hour. I just think that mandating only 3v3 is a bit far.
Still, its better than many Dutch leagues where they dont have a keeper until u9s and they have a try line scoring system where you have to pass and control the ball between the lines to score.

Anyway, a bit off topic and entirely my fault.

Football at the very top level is becoming boring and too focused on stats. I think the betting markets also have an effect on that.

 

[blueconverse]

Honestly Pep has done damage to the entertainment value of the pl.