nigelcoyb
Player Valuation: £25m
I really rated Moyes because whilst many bang on about remembering the 80's, I can still remember the 90's as well (and more than just one game), and he took us from that nightmare and made us a feared team worthy of pride again. We were the easy three points that teams above us fumed about when they lost to us... Now its us fuming at a draw against the teams we used to be. That's why I like Moyes, because I too am a football fan more than a money man, and because I much prefer it this way around with the expectation of 3 points rather than getting our arses whooped... again. I am also realistic enough to realise that actually getting 4th was an achievement as immense and difficult as Wigan winning the cup, and to stay in those higher positions, far more impressive than he is being given credit for.
That being said, I also like Martinez so far and I cannot wait to see the lineup and the sort of football his team will play, the new players two of which I think are very exciting prospects for the coming season, and to hear the silky mofo big us up at every opportunity more attacking lineups, strikers as first choice subs (none of this may happen of course, but until it doesn't we can dream).
Its all good, but you can't deny that given the money Martinez has already had (more than Moyes total spend), the squad Moyes left, and the sheer amount of problems you lot claim Moyes had, if you are right about Moyes, it should be an absolute doddle for Martinez to do better than him even on his first year?
Fortunately I don't agree with most of the anti Moyes comments and prefer facts and what I see myself, so I am expecting Martinez to be exciting, and to drop a little, because like it or not, mock it or not, 4th,5th,6th,7th or 8th under our business model is a superb result that will be tough to match... Its why no one has yet.
Other than that I agree utterly with your post though mate
Mate as you know I have no problem with your point of view you always put it out there decently and without rancour.
Very broadly speaking I think much of your comment does rely on financial plus points (the transfer "failings", pounds per league position) and without doing it to death I'm just not a convert.
That money dictates in football I realise is a fact - but not 100% of the time. I accept it but despise it, our only hope is a sneaky 4th or assault on the League and FA cups via guile and audacity Moyes did it once via 4th (well done!) but then appeared scarred by the ensuing european campaign. Afterward pragmatic utility play infused everything and that audacity hardly ever surfaced again - that's why I wanted him gone - EFC ain't some Coventry/Charlton/Southampton monkey.
