2025/26 Idrissa Gana Gueye

[GoldenToffee]

If the club wants to progress, we need to move on high-earning, on-the-decline players like Gueye. I think it's preposterous that we'll be keeping both of Tarkowski and Keane next season too (and Tarkowski probably for another two after that).

None of those three should be starting next season, and Everton as a club will have amongst the fewest overall fixtures of most Premier League sides next season (half will be in Europe, our manager doesn't take cup competitions seriously) so we hardly need a massive squad.

On a different note, regarding players simply not good enough: At most serious clubs all of Keane, Gueye, McNeil, Beto, Barry, Patterson and Alcaraz wouldn't be retained ahead of next season.

 

[davek]

You need a legend to understand a heat map????

Who's heat map is it? When was it for? What game and what season? Is it consistent for the player highlighted?

You know just those minor details.

 

[Nymzee]

Who's heat map is it? When was it for? What game and what season? Is it consistent for the player highlighted?

You know just those minor details.

It says at the top "season heatmap" so... the season, not a game.

The player? Well I asked you to guess but hint: it's maybe relevant to this thread.

Is it consistent? It's an average heatmap over the season...

 

[davek]

It says at the top "season heatmap" so... the season, not a game.

The player? Well I asked you to guess but hint: it's maybe relevant to this thread.

Is it consistent? It's an average heatmap over the season...

If you get a certain image that confirms the identity then I'll look at it. Otherwise all I see is a heat map...

 

[Nymzee]

If you get a certain image that confirms the identity then I'll look at it. Otherwise all I see is a heat map...

Why do you keep giving me the opportunity to make you look like a plank? I mean I love it, but why?

 

[davek]

Why do you keep giving me the opportunity to make you look like a plank? I mean I love it, but why?

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Here's Gueye's heat map for the season from Opta (gold standard unlike your back of a beer mat effort). As you can see the darker shades of pink reflect that Gueye is predominantly operating in the defensive or middle third of the pitch.

Of course I haven't got the name on the legend, but here's the page for you to link to.

Idrissa Gueye

Idrissa Gueye player profile, stats, and analysis. Current team, position, age, and performance metrics from Opta Analyst.

theanalyst.com

 

[Nymzee]

Here's Gueye's heat map for the season from Opta (gold standard unlike your back of a beer mat effort). As you can see the darker shades of pink reflect that Gueye is predominantly operating in the defensive or middle third of the pitch.

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Of course I haven't got the name on the legend, but here's the page for you to link to.

Idrissa Gueye

Idrissa Gueye player profile, stats, and analysis. Current team, position, age, and performance metrics from Opta Analyst.

theanalyst.com

Erm, you do realise heatmaps work left-to-right?

 

[Saint Domingo]

If we want to become more of a possession based team we need to start with midfielders that are better at keeping the ball than they are at chasing after the opposition because they’ve lost it so many times.

Idrissa Gueye in 2017 was a decent player but still had limitations in possession. The current version is miles off it.

 

[davek]

Erm, you do realise heatmaps work left-to-right?

That's what i said.

 

[Nymzee]

That's what i said.

No, you said "As you can see the darker shades of pink reflect that Gueye is predominantly operating in the defensive or middle third of the pitch."

But that's not true, unless you're colour blind, the darker shades are all in the opposition half. In fact the position a sitter would operate, in our defensive third, are all very light pink.

Maybe a trip to the optometrist is in order.

 

[davek]

No, you said "As you can see the darker shades of pink reflect that Gueye is predominantly operating in the defensive or middle third of the pitch."

But that's not true, unless you're colour blind, the darker shades are all in the opposition half. In fact the position a sitter would operate, in our defensive third, are all very light pink.

Maybe a trip to the optometrist is in order.

No, not at all. I stated above that the defensive third was darker shaded. It is. Reading left to right (of course) you can see that the defensive third has many more darker shades of pink than those in the final third on the right hand side.

I mean, I had to read your response a couple of times to wonder WTF you were on about. Do you not see the difference between the shading in the first third of the Gueye heat map as compared with the final third of the pitch reading left to right?!

I think you've confused the terms 'darkest' /'darker' and 'deepest' here, because in the defensive half of the pitch is way more mid-pink colouration than the lighter ones in the opposition half - count them - the interactive page allows you to add them all up.

*sigh*

 

[Nymzee]

No, not at all. I stated above that the defensive third was darker shaded. It is. Reading left to right (of course) you can see that the defensive third has many more darker shades of pink than those in the final third on the right hand side.

I mean, I had to read your response a couple of times to wonder WTF you were on about. Do you not see the difference between the shading in the first third of the Gueye heat map as compared with the final third of the pitch?!

I think you've confused the terms darkest and deepest here, because o=i the defensive half of the pitch is way more mid-pink colouration than the lighter ones in the opposition half - count them - the interactive page allows you to add them all up.

*sigh*

Dave, simple question: how is the left (our half) darker than the right (oppo half)? Just say "I messed up again" and I will take my boot off your proverbial neck.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

[davek]

Dave, simple question: how is the left (our half) darker than the right (oppo half)? Just say "I messed up again" and I will take my boot off your proverbial neck.


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Ha ha. Is see you're literally moving the goalposts now!!!

Answer me this...look at your split halves of pitch. Now tell me if the half on the left contains more pink shaded area than that on the right.

It's pretty easy. Here's what I see: pink coverage across pretty much all of that half of the pitch on the left hand side and only two-thirds - if that - coverage on the right.

Lad, throw the shovel down and get out of that hole. It's now officially embarrassing.

 

[turner]

A year deal , but must be phased out of a starting role.

No one gets phased out or phased in by this manager. It's all or nothing.

 

[Nymzee]

Ha ha. Is see you're literally moving the goalposts now!!!

Answer me this...look at your split halves of pitch. Now tell me if the half on the left contains more pink shaded area than that on the right.

It's pretty easy. Here's what I see: pink coverage across pretty much all of that half of the pitch on the left hand side and only two-thirds - if that - coverage on the right.

Lad, throw the shovel down and get out of that hole. It's now officially embarrassing.

Genuinely a bit worried about your eyesight to be honest. Your gold-standard heatmap clearly shows a box-to-box midfielder, as people have pointed out.

I will leave you to try and furiously come out on top here - maybe you can rotate the images around? Maybe I won't notice.