Current Affairs How old were you when you grew up and stopped voting Labour?

[Bruce Wayne]

You mean like some ground rules?

• Fair migration system for UK business and communities
• Retaining strong, collaborative relationship with EU
• Protecting national security and tackling cross-border crime
• Delivering for all nations and regions of the UK
• Protecting workers' rights and employment protections
• Ensuring same benefits currently enjoyed within single market

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39398049

Or do you mean a second referendum? That's not too great an idea for anyone who purports to be a democrat. And if somebody repeats that bizarre 'the good thing about democracy is that you can change your mind' line again, I think even I'd vote Brexit next time. I wouldn't.

As @zzr45 has said, if there are policies there that they stand by with regards to Brexit, what are they doing to ensure those policies get enacted by the government? I've heard plenty from Starmer and Benn on Brexit, but hardly anything from Corbyn or McDonnell. Is it telling that both Starmer and Benn are Blairites?

 

[davek]

As @zzr45 has said, if there are policies there that they stand by with regards to Brexit, what are they doing to ensure those policies get enacted by the government? I've heard plenty from Starmer and Benn on Brexit, but hardly anything from Corbyn or McDonnell. Is it telling that both Starmer and Benn are Blairites?

He's the Shadow Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union. Is it any wonder he has more to say than Corbyn on the issue?

Good grief.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

He's the Shadow Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union. Is it any wonder he has more to say than Corbyn on the issue?

Good grief.

no wonder you fellas think he's great with such low expectations of the man.

 

[davek]

lol no wonder you fellas think he's great with such low expectations of the man.

He's prepared the ground for a cross party alliance in favour of a customs union and you can be sure that threat has concentrated May's Government in terms of what it will finally agree to.

What would you have him do? Give speeches by the score to get his "I said something about Brexit" ratings up?

Brexit: Tory mess. Tory Government own it. Let them deal with it to the satisfaction of a majority in parliament or they suffer the consequences.

 

[roydo]

He's prepared the ground for a cross party alliance in favour of a customs union and you can be sure that threat has concentrated May's Government in terms of what it will finally agree to.

What would you have him do? Give speeches by the score to get his "I said something about Brexit" ratings up?

Brexit: Tory mess. Tory Government own it. Let them deal with it to the satisfaction of a majority in parliament or they suffer the consequences.

Blimey. I agree!!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

He's prepared the ground for a cross party alliance in favour of a customs union and you can be sure that threat has concentrated May's Government in terms of what it will finally agree to.

What would you have him do? Give speeches by the score to get his "I said something about Brexit" ratings up?

Brexit: Tory mess. Tory Government own it. Let them deal with it to the satisfaction of a majority in parliament or they suffer the consequences.

How has he prepared the ground for that? Hillary Benn and his Brexit committee have done infinitely more to hold the government to account on this than Corbyn has.

 

[zzr45]

Remember, only the Conservatives are only totally selfish and care about themselves and getting power.

 

[davek]

How has he prepared the ground for that? lol Hillary Benn and his Brexit committee have done infinitely more to hold the government to account on this than Corbyn has.

I honestly have no idea what you're asking of me now. You seem to want me to explain to you how and why a leader of the Opposition with no hand in creating the Brexit disaster should solve a mess that others have created. And when I point out that he and the vast majority of his party and other MPs opposed to a hard Brexit will offer May's Government a way out of cratering the country via the proposal to adopt a customs union that can gain a majority in the House (and thereby save her from being the most craven and stupid PM of the 21st century) you carry on with your insistence he's doing nothing and letting the country down.

Genuinely bemused at your lack of consistency here.

 

[roydo]

I honestly have no idea what you're asking of me now. You seem to want me to explain to you how and why a leader of the Opposition with no hand in creating the Brexit disaster should solve a mess that others have created. And when I point out that he and the vast majority of his party and other MPs opposed to a hard Brexit will offer May's Government a way out of cratering the country via the proposal to adopt a customs union that can gain a majority in the House (and thereby save her from being the most craven and stupid PM of the 21st century) you carry on with your insistence he's doing nothing and letting the country down.

Genuinely bemused at your lack of consistency here.

Thats 2 political posts in a row from you I have agreed with.

I had a tooth out on Monday, (not nice), there must be a correlation somehow.

Or maybe it illustrates that this shambles is beyond traditional party lines. Dead weird times anyrate.

 

[davek]

Thats 2 political posts in a row from you I have agreed with.

I had a tooth out on Monday, (not nice), there must be a correlation somehow.

Or maybe it illustrates that this shambles is beyond traditional party lines. Dead weird times anyrate.

lol

...maybe Bruce has a toothache then.

 

[roydo]

lol

...maybe Bruce has a toothache then.

Haha! My tooth became a bit of a cause celebre in dental circles apparently. It had a triple fracture, so the dentist invited some dentist writing a Phd on dental fractures in on the procedure.

When she took a peek and exclaimed, "I have NEVER seen one like that, can I include this in my paper?" while I was numb as a monk, well, wasnt the most reassuring piece of news I have had.

NHS dentist as well. Rare as hens teeth (sic) down here. But terrific.

Anyrate, what thread? Oh. Its a pudding all this. Played Cameron you tit.

 

[davek]

Haha! My tooth became a bit of a cause celebre in dental circles apparently. It had a triple fracture, so the dentist invited some dentist writing a Phd on dental fractures in on the procedure.

When she took a peek and exclaimed, "I have NEVER seen one like that, can I include this in my paper?" while I was numb as a monk, well, wasnt the most reassuring piece of news I have had.

NHS dentist as well. Rare as hens teeth (sic) down here. But terrific.

Anyrate, what thread? Oh. Its a pudding all this. Played Cameron you tit.

You're always boasting.

 

[roydo]

You're always boasting.

Gagging as my gob was flooded with water and air so the lass could get a good look at it more like! Was like being waterboarded ffs.

 

[davek]

Gagging as my gob was flooded with water and air so the lass could get a good look at it more like! Was like being waterboarded ffs.

Ha Ha Ha.

 

[roydo]

Ha Ha Ha.

Thanks mate. ffs.