How long will it take to fix this mess?

[Eggs]

….until Moshiri acquires the right manager and introduces a strict process that allows the DoF to manage the transfer process.

 

[lancs blue]

Until the board are sacked and Billy whiz is marched down goodison Road in shackles to be pelted by the crowd nothing will good will happen

I'm sure baxendale can get a job on premium phone lines - gift of the gab

 

[roy vernon]

We won’t fix anything until we can afford to get shut of our DOF and our manager. We need to employ a DOF who the owner is confident in and let him do his job without interference. He should be allowed to come up with a short list of coaches with whom he can work and the board should go out and get one of these coaches in.

It is imperative in today’s football with the high turnover of coaches/managers, that there is a consistency that is provided by a DOF implementing a consistent brand of football right through the club’s teams from the youths up, thus, when the coach changes, the Club appoint a new coach who is suited to working with the existing players under the existing system. This means we are not left with expensive tatt that we can’t shift after each managerial change.

That is the way forward in an ideal world, on the other hand, Everton aren’t we, so we keep Brands and Benitez, spend a few million on over priced journeyman players as usual. Putting a sticking plaster on a gaping wound.

 

[Tipp blue]

FFP is designed to keep clubs in their place and our place is anywhere between 15th in a bad year and 6th in a great year.. now we've had a summer where we've spent just 2 million we've still got a bunch of deadwood that we couldn't get rid of even if we were to pay other clubs to take them which is going to hold us back until their contracts run down... the plan was to pay above market value for players who were doing great at their previous clubs and offer them high wages, u guess the plan was to be in the Champions league by now and it's not worked and FFP is doing it's job.. while FFP is around we'll never have a sustained run of challenging at the top.

 

[nikom court]

30 years of mismanagement is going to fixed in a couple of months!

 

[Bluestar]

The manager and players are garbage granted, but the root cause of all this is off the field.

Pointless getting rid of the players we have if they're going to be replaced with with the same crap because the people at boardroom level don't have a clue.

Is Ferguson the best first team coach we could have? NO
Is Unsworth the best U23s manager we could have? NO
Is John Ebrell the man for the academy? NO
Was Benitez the best manager we could of got? NO
Should Brands have had his contract renewed? NO

Having people in these positions and having a manager and players who are rank is down to the people at the top.
Until Kenwright Brands and co leave then expect the same.

Kenwright is the biggest culprit for our failure he's the one recruiting the 'boys'

The options for manager were Benitez, Howe or Espírito Santo.

We didnt have the money to poach a manager from elsewhere. We a.so didnt have a transfe4 budget to offer them. Each of those had risks.

changing manage4 again won’t solve the fundamental problem that our recruitment ha# failed. That is the biggest failure of all.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

The manager and players are garbage granted, but the root cause of all this is off the field.

Pointless getting rid of the players we have if they're going to be replaced with with the same crap because the people at boardroom level don't have a clue.

Is Ferguson the best first team coach we could have? NO
Is Unsworth the best U23s manager we could have? NO
Is John Ebrell the man for the academy? NO
Was Benitez the best manager we could of got? NO
Should Brands have had his contract renewed? NO

Having people in these positions and having a manager and players who are rank is down to the people at the top.
Until Kenwright Brands and co leave then expect the same.

Kenwright is the biggest culprit for our failure he's the one recruiting the 'boys'

But he owns the club. You cannot unseat him. And these are the guys he wants to work with.

 

[tim cahill]

I'm not sure the money is still there to fix things. The club can't keep losing £100m every year.

If we added 6 top quality players to our squad then we'd be very strong but judging by our recent recruitment only about 1 in 3 signings are any good. In an ideal world 2-4 years. The last few years of poor signings on big contracts have set us back big time, there's no doubt about that.

 

[evertony]

We’ve gone 30 years or so being wholly mediocre, predictable and soft. Why would we believe that can change quickly, especially considering we’ve spent upwards of £600M and undeniably gone backwards. The squad we have bar one or two very mediocre, is on bloated wages, long contracts and will be almost impossible to shift. Got to hope the clubs seeing new investment now like Newcastle and West Ham make a similarly bad job of a golden opportunity. It seems to me the top 4 or top 6 is further away than ever before and the gaggle of Clubs in and around us are more stable or have suddenly got investment.
The stink of mediocrity and the acceptance of it is what really holds us back. We quite simply have a losers mentality all across the Club. It will take some very strong and sometimes unpopular decisions to change that....my concern is we have nobody with the balls to do that.

 

[Penno]

The options for manager were Benitez, Howe or Espírito Santo.

We didnt have the money to poach a manager from elsewhere. We a.so didnt have a transfe4 budget to offer them. Each of those had risks.

changing manage4 again won’t solve the fundamental problem that our recruitment ha# failed. That is the biggest failure of all.

Here you go fella, this might help https://www.argos.co.uk/product/948...Vg2DmCh1HUAp9EAQYASABEgJ01fD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[deipnosophist]

NSNO

 

[kev]

The correct answer was given in the very first reply

I suppose it depends what you mean by good. We are one of the ten best teams in possibly the toughest league in the world, so we are not exactly Sunday league standard.
If by good you mean a regular top 4 team or even challenging for the league, then I don't see that happening until there is a significant change in the structure of football itself. Which won't be happening any time soon.

THIS ?

 

[Lawrence]

The rot set in when: Moyes admitted the first conversation with Kenwright every Pre-Season was about ensuring SURVIVAL. That took us to Coventry City level in the seventies and eighties. Yet he has been allowed by Moshri, to hang around like a wet fart. Sadly the money has been sweet shop stuff. No really good chocolate bought, but out of the pick and mix, sadly we have bought tons of kit Kats the off cuts of the really good chocolate. DBB and Blue Bill, plucky little Everton, its made us a bloody packet.

 

[ForeverEverton]

2-4 years.

We'll need to get through the FFP drama, sign top players, sell dross players and get into the new stadium.

The only remaining concern would be Benitez and if his methods can be translated into something successful.

What you havent factored in there is the amount of managers sacked in the 2-4 years and the dross we are yet to sign, minimum 2 years before we can get rid of Rondon!!!

 

[Neiler]

3-4 years, we need to hit ground zero financially, not even close to that yet and not to say we wont mess up in the meantime which we likely will.