How are you feeling about the club?

How do you feel about Everton right now?

  • Entertained :)

    Votes: 8 3.6%
  • Happy

    Votes: 2 0.9%
  • Bored

    Votes: 86 38.4%
  • Not entertained :(

    Votes: 61 27.2%
  • Anger/Hatred/ extreme negative feelings

    Votes: 67 29.9%

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We all know how we feel about the club right now, the question is, how do the board feel? Do they even feel a fraction of the frustration, embarrassment and sickening spiritual deflation that comes from watching such dire predictable, pedestrian football that our beloved team are presenting us?
 
Disappointed mainly. As an Evertonian who started watching us in the mid-late 90's, i've never seen us at the top, but I suppose with the successes in the 80's our older family influences genuinely believed we'd be back to those heights someday in the near future and made us believe we would. There was a big upturn in fortunes during most of the Moyes years but he didn't seem to have what it took to take us to the very top and challenge the newly formed SKY elite/'Big 4'. In came Martinez, and after an unbelievable first season, we were ready to push on. I've never been more excited as an Evertonian for our future as the day Lukaku signed permanently as I knew he was a genuinely top class player. All those seasons under Moyes where we came 5th-7th we were crying out for a Lukaku type goalscorer who could push us in to the top 4.

Things never worked out for Martinez in the end but there was finally some hope with Moshiri coming in. I genuinely believe that off the pitch he is going to benefit us more than a lot of people give him credit for, and I believe the Stadium move will happen. But unfortunately, despite wanting to him to succeed all round and influence things on the pitch, something has massively gone wrong this summer. I feel there is some blame attached to all 3 of him, Koeman and Walsh but significantly 2 things bother me the most.

1. Moshiri/Koeman's failure to have a backup plan for a Striker. The Striker situation has absolutely killed us and I fear it could set us back for years. I can fully appreciate that Giroud may have strung us along, and that some strikers were overpriced, but why did we let ourselves end up in that situation? Koeman stated repeatedly that we needed a replacement, the fans knew it, and now every pundit and opposition fan who knows their football are looking at us with bewilderment and most are laughing at us. For Moshiri to go on Sky Sports News on deadline day and act like everything was fine was an insult to the supporters and an absolute disgrace.

2. The manager situation. It isn't Moshiri's fault that Koeman isn't the manager some of us hoped he would be. I simply cannot get my head around the fact that this man is respected as one of the best defenders of all time and has achieved so much in the game yet is absolutely clueless managerially. He has absolutely no idea what he is doing, continues to make the same mistakes and the sad thing is that I don't know who we can now go out and replace him with.

Having said all that, I don't support this club for success. I support them because they're my team and I will continue to follow them home and away as long as my circumstances allow it. Seeing the way the league home games and pretty much every away continues to sell out, most obviously feel the same way and I just hope we can turn our fortunes around sometime soon.
 
you should have included an extreme apathy option, the simple fact is that changing the manager now will not change anything, we will merely be bringing someone else in for "more of the same" i.e. a brief spell of delusional optimism before real life kicks in, another manager who will fail to live up to our fanbases ridiculous aspirations based on the false message broadcast from the very top of our club.
There is no ambition to compete at the very top of English football, any club with serious ambition would not sell their 2 best players in consecutive close seasons (and without injury would probably have sold a third), we are miles behind the real big clubs in English football both financially and aspirationally.
Moshiri unintentionally showed his and the clubs aspiration with his acceptable losses speech the other week, what message does that send out to the players? we all know that Lyon will beat us easily, we all know that Chelsea will smash us next week because that is the benchmark set by the people that lead us from the top.
The only person who constantly sets standards appears to be Unsworth, he at least knows what nil satis nisi optimum means and that is reflected when our young players like Kenny come out with statements like "we are Everton we aren't scared of anyone" lines as he did when asked about the Chelsea tie, like it or not we as a fanbase love that its kind of always been there,some of you will be thinking its fanciful tosh however it's better than "expected defeats".
Moshiri has quite simply ripped the heart out of this club with his appointment of Ronko and to a certain extent Walsh who appears to have recruited random piles of [Poor language removed] without any cohesion, direction, or end game, now he is refusing to act when the likes of Crystal Palace, Leicester have pulled the trigger on their managerial failures, somehow its good enough for Everton.
Apathy is all i feel right now because even a change of manager will not change anything without some clear direction from the top. Mr Moshiri when you are watching the rubbish on offer tomorrow probably from the comfort of your London apartment, look at the amount of empty seats at Goodison and realise that the apathy has set in across the fan base and if you are not bothered about having a proud, passionate team that's fine, just do the honourable thing sack Koeman put Unsworth in charge and [Poor language removed] back to whatever Russian investment organisation you appeared from and while you're at it take Kenwright and Elstone with you.
Great post, mate. Thanks. I'd just add the question of why our good players have wanted to leave. Players these days are mercenaries, but still, the club should engender a sense of loyalty and commitment, the old 'Once Everton has touched you' stuff. It still happens - Cahill, Naisy - but what is there about Everton now to engender that feeling? Has Everton lost its soul?
 
Moshiri unintentionally showed his and the clubs aspiration with his acceptable losses speech the other week, what message does that send out to the players? we all know that Lyon will beat us easily, we all know that Chelsea will smash us next week because that is the benchmark set by the people that lead us from the top.


Mosh's Ratner moment.
 
Still bleating about the club selling Stones & Lukaku mate ?
Did you feel the same when we sold Lescott & Arteta ?
All four have something in common.
DID NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR THIS CLUB ANYMORE.

Beat up on the club all you want but the club can only get the best possible deal for the club once ANY player wants to leave.

The days of selling Alan Ball & Duncan Ferguson are well gone mate , and this two love/ loved the club.
Cant say the same about the other 4.

So feel free to vent your apathy on a lot at the club , but turn it in about selling its best players eh.
if we had any ambition our best players wouldn't want to leave, and we were not under any pressure to sell Stones or Lukaku, we sold because without that we wouldnt have been able to buy Schneiderlin, lookman in January or any of the players we have signed in the summer that is very obvious. Like I have pointed out already Moshiri has no intention of anything other than keeping Everton ticking over until the ground is complete and he can sell on at a massive profit and recoup his "interest free" £80m loan. enjoy mediocrity
 
Any team can suffer a freak European result...

What kept me going was the existing young players and Vlasic, Pickford, Keane,Sandro etc adding to the young group...

That positivity swiftly evaporated...
I don't think the result was the issue, as these things can happen. The tactics the performance and the overall demena of the team and more importantly the manager was what killed me. Since that night it has just gone bad to a level I can't explain.
Very sad that we are now in this dire position, and I am not sure how we will rectify it...
 
The team is so disjointed if you know what i mean, theres no flow to attacks everything is just really slow.
Something needs to give, I really hope the fans back the team tomorrow regardless of how they feel against the manager.
 
if we had any ambition our best players wouldn't want to leave, and we were not under any pressure to sell Stones or Lukaku, we sold because without that we wouldnt have been able to buy Schneiderlin, lookman in January or any of the players we have signed in the summer that is very obvious. Like I have pointed out already Moshiri has no intention of anything other than keeping Everton ticking over until the ground is complete and he can sell on at a massive profit and recoup his "interest free" £80m loan. enjoy mediocrity
Get real lad.
History is littered with players that move on and we are no different.
That does not mean we should accept mediocrity , Lukaku was on his way from the day he signed for us.
We kept Stones out of Chelsea's claws for a season ( that turned out great eh).
As I said once ANY player makes his mind up to go ...he's going...only question is when & for how much ?
You've been crying about this for a good while , Suarez & Bale are just 2 of many that once they made their minds up move on.
Stop trying to beat the club up over this , there's plenty of other thing's to have a moan about at this club.

Plus
You know nothing whatsoever about Moshiri's intensions....but it does suit your agenda tho.
 
you should have included an extreme apathy option, the simple fact is that changing the manager now will not change anything, we will merely be bringing someone else in for "more of the same" i.e. a brief spell of delusional optimism before real life kicks in, another manager who will fail to live up to our fanbases ridiculous aspirations based on the false message broadcast from the very top of our club.
There is no ambition to compete at the very top of English football, any club with serious ambition would not sell their 2 best players in consecutive close seasons (and without injury would probably have sold a third), we are miles behind the real big clubs in English football both financially and aspirationally.
Moshiri unintentionally showed his and the clubs aspiration with his acceptable losses speech the other week, what message does that send out to the players? we all know that Lyon will beat us easily, we all know that Chelsea will smash us next week because that is the benchmark set by the people that lead us from the top.
The only person who constantly sets standards appears to be Unsworth, he at least knows what nil satis nisi optimum means and that is reflected when our young players like Kenny come out with statements like "we are Everton we aren't scared of anyone" lines as he did when asked about the Chelsea tie, like it or not we as a fanbase love that its kind of always been there,some of you will be thinking its fanciful tosh however it's better than "expected defeats".
Moshiri has quite simply ripped the heart out of this club with his appointment of Ronko and to a certain extent Walsh who appears to have recruited random piles of [Poor language removed] without any cohesion, direction, or end game, now he is refusing to act when the likes of Crystal Palace, Leicester have pulled the trigger on their managerial failures, somehow its good enough for Everton.
Apathy is all i feel right now because even a change of manager will not change anything without some clear direction from the top. Mr Moshiri when you are watching the rubbish on offer tomorrow probably from the comfort of your London apartment, look at the amount of empty seats at Goodison and realise that the apathy has set in across the fan base and if you are not bothered about having a proud, passionate team that's fine, just do the honourable thing sack Koeman put Unsworth in charge and [Poor language removed] back to whatever Russian investment organisation you appeared from and while you're at it take Kenwright and Elstone with you.

I agree with absolutely everything you said there mate.You summed up everything that myself and others are thinking to the very word.
 
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