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Yesterday I had single bets on a 12/1 winner, 8/1 winner and a 15/2 winner.
Why oh why didn't I do doubles and trebles.
Why oh why didn't I do doubles and trebles.
hallamblue
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Because 99 times out of 100 1 wins and you've wasted most of your stake on unlikely doubles and trebles.
duncs pigeon
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Hindsights a wonderful thing, but wouldnt a small stake round robin and accy been worth it? If you have only one winner, your single stake winnings would have covered it.
evilwebby
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This is what I was saying a couple of weeks ago about value in each-way bets..
https://www.sbo.net/horse-racing/when-to-bet-each-way/
I've noticed that it's starting to get mentioned a bit more on some of the racing channels and podcasts that I listen to. Bookies will pretend that there is nothing wrong with it, but the truth is that the current EW system is horrendously outdated and inefficient, sometimes (most of the time) vastly favouring the bookie but occassionally heavily favouring the punter. Do a google for "bad each ways" and you will uncover more.
also worth a read:
http://www.attheraces.com/blogs/kevin-blake/07-September-2015
https://www.sbo.net/horse-racing/when-to-bet-each-way/
I've noticed that it's starting to get mentioned a bit more on some of the racing channels and podcasts that I listen to. Bookies will pretend that there is nothing wrong with it, but the truth is that the current EW system is horrendously outdated and inefficient, sometimes (most of the time) vastly favouring the bookie but occassionally heavily favouring the punter. Do a google for "bad each ways" and you will uncover more.
also worth a read:
http://www.attheraces.com/blogs/kevin-blake/07-September-2015
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...I had a couple of quid on a few days ago at 8-1, more my type of price. The favourite is clearly well thought of. One point worth noting, the horse that came 3rd when Benbatl won on debut won at this meeting on Tuesday which is a boost to the form.
Benbatl is a bit of an unknown quantity but we'll know more after today. It surprises me that he has got a Derby entry, the fashion of his win indicates he's got real speed and I imagined he'd be more of a 2000 Guineas horse, unless Godolphin don't feel he's quite up to that standard.
hallamblue
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Of course the problem with betting on favourable each way horses is that if you do it with a traditional bookie you will be restricted and then barred, and if you do it on an exchange they have separate place markets so you won't get value.
On a side note, I once opened an account with Stan James. I bet £10 on a horse at about 6/4 which won, then they gave me a free £10 bet which I put on a 5/1 shot which won. They then closed my account lol. Pathetic isn't it.
True mate. It's hard enough to pick one, never mind two or three
5/1 at the moment
evilwebby
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Yeah, bookies are very quick to shut down sharps now. I place all my bets in shops.
SJ are the absolute worst bookie, with the possible exception of RaceBets. They'll close your account if they get so much as a whiff that you know what you are doing - doesn't even have to be betting on dirty EWs; I have heard they they close accounts if they find you have taken an early price that turns out to be >20% than SP. They are a disgrace to the bookmaking industry.
TBH I don't understand why anyone with any concept of value would bet win-only at a traditional bookie. Quicker and easier just placing your bet on an exchange, and you'll nearly always get a better price. I suppose they are looking at accas and other exotic bets (which I don't even understand) that you can't do on an exchange, but these are just mugs that are guaranteed moneyspinners for the bookies over a sample of >2.
hallamblue
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Benbatl ran a good race there, thought he was going to battle through. Won't be winning a Guineas though.
orly
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Eminent won that how he liked. Serious horse for the Guineas if anyone wants to risk Churchill not bring ready
Toast
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I used a shop yesterday, I was after an ante post bet.
Nearly half an hour it took me to get £20 ew on a 150/1 shot.
An utter ball ache and embarrassing in the end.
..I don't think he ever had a Guineas entry. It was only his 2nd run, he pulled very hard early on because he's getting used to the game. As Hayley Turner said, Benbatl was the one to take from the race. Bin Suroor said he's bred to go further, I think he needs cut in the ground looking at his action.
Very decent racehorse.