Help for one of our own - Russian Evertonian

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

looks like a grim place to be that prison, good luck and hope you're out asap.

should've entered on your visa and then tried to get asylum ..... in hindsight.

 

[Zatara]

That's why I was lost as from the opening post it wasnt clear.

If you have a valid visa then are put into a prison when claiming asylum then that appears to be a violation of your human rights for several reasons. Additionally if you have been to the UK before even for a short period of time then it will show a pattern of travel history which is precisely what immigration looks for.

The issue you have is that consular assistance is probably not a good idea. Do you have a human rights lawyer --this is usually free for a consultation and would be the best step forward, if you dont know anyone then simply ask the solicitor appointed to introduce you to one, they should do this as a matter of urgency.

I have never said the word "surprised". As for so-called asylum centre. firstly I didn't expect this, because I have a valid visa and a place to stay in UK. and secondly it is not an asylum centre. it is a prison called Harmondsworth. check on google what its like if you want.
Evertonians, thanks for your support.

 

[Zatara]

I've been stopped before in airports in SE Asia by people trying to extort money from companies ive worked for -- in these places kidnapping isnt off the table.

Vietnam and China for example you can be well and truly stuffed. japan they can hold you 3months with no phonecall and you must only speak japanese with visitors other than the embassy.

In india a colleague had drugs planted on him inside an airport -- you really need to keep your head down and keep calm in these situations.

Edit-- The climate politically on this topic is so sensitive that theres alot that can happen rightly or wrongly -- nothing should come as a surprise.

You don't see anything wrong with that?

 

[AlE]

I've been stopped before in airports in SE Asia by people trying to extort money from companies ive worked for -- in these places kidnapping isnt off the table.

Vietnam and China for example you can be well and truly stuffed. japan they can hold you 3months with no phonecall and you must only speak japanese with visitors other than the embassy.

In india a colleague had drugs planted on him inside an airport -- you really need to keep your head down and keep calm in these situations.

Sorry for my ignorance but... Is this relevant?

 

[chicoazul]

I've been stopped before in airports in SE Asia by people trying to extort money from companies ive worked for -- in these places kidnapping isnt off the table.

Vietnam and China for example you can be well and truly stuffed. japan they can hold you 3months with no phonecall and you must only speak japanese with visitors other than the embassy.

In india a colleague had drugs planted on him inside an airport -- you really need to keep your head down and keep calm in these situations.

Edit-- The climate politically on this topic is so sensitive that theres alot that can happen rightly or wrongly -- nothing should come as a surprise.

Zat YOU the man.

 

[Zatara]

Wow. So now posters on here writing about Everton can be called Peadophiles, rapists, suffer racism and other obnoxious comments from "Forum Members" which is acceptable (I havent seen any bans for this repeated commentary).

Yet asking a question on a non-Everton related topic where the OP was not clear constitutes the threat of being banned from a website? That's especially interesting when I have actual experience of dealing with immigration in numerous places and even asylum seekers back when I was in the UK a decade ago so could potentially be of some help, however limited.

This chap needs to contact a human rights lawyer and I probably need to do the same.

Erm mate, you are appearing on my radar too frequently. Please visit the site rules and observe that those posters deemed to be high maintenance usually have a short tenure.

Settle down, enjoy the site and chat with Blues rather than drawing attention to yourself.

Thank you.

 

[AlE]

Wow. So now posters on here writing about Everton can be called Peadophiles, rapists, suffer racism and other obnoxious comments from "Forum Members" which is acceptable (I havent seen any bans for this repeated commentary).

Yet asking a question on a non-Everton related topic where the OP was not clear constitutes the threat of being banned from a website? That's especially interesting when I have actual experience of dealing with immigration in numerous places and even asylum seekers back when I was in the UK a decade ago so could potentially be of some help, however limited.

This chap needs to contact a human rights lawyer and I probably need to do the same.

Mate I'm not trying to Play Mod here (see what I did there?) but perhaps it'd be best if you swerved this thread and contributed to the summer speculation thread etc..

No point being controversial for the sake of it lad!

 

[Zatara]

When crossing borders its not always a simple case of smiling and waving a passport.

A lot of places are corrupt including security and officials -- in this case theres two major problems:

A-- Consular assistance isnt there so he needs to find a solicitor asap.

B-- His actual embassy will be fighting tooth and nail to have him deported back to russia.

You cant make political statements thesedays outside of the UK and expect no blowback, the very least you can hope for in some places is jailtime hence the threats he has received hes done well to get out of russia.

You can get stopped at a border for almost anything and in that respect hes actually lucky to be in the UK now where he can have legal advice for free rather than serious problems.

Sorry for my ignorance but... Is this relevant?

 

[AlE]

When crossing borders its not always a simple case of smiling and waving a passport.

A lot of places are corrupt including security and officials -- in this case theres two major problems:

A-- Consular assistance isnt there so he needs to find a solicitor asap.

B-- His actual embassy will be fighting tooth and nail to have him deported back to russia.

You cant make political statements thesedays outside of the UK and expect no blowback, the very least you can hope for in some places is jailtime hence the threats he has received hes done well to get out of russia.

You can get stopped at a border for almost anything and in that respect hes actually lucky to be in the UK now where he can have legal advice for free rather than serious problems.

@bluemangroup asked you if you thought it was ok he should be receiving threats over his answers in an interview, to which you replied with some crap about travelling in South East Asia. Hardly relevant, pal.

 

[AlE]

...sorry I've been sucked into going off on a tangent too.

Can't do anything to help but best wishes to @Russian Evertonian

Hope it all gets sorted, mate.

 

[Sapie88]

Hope you get sorted mate. You're welcome for a bowl of scouse any time when you get out.

 

[Hogwild]

Just a reminder that so many of us take so much for granted.......

 

[Zatara]

I see. What I was trying to highlight was that he was cross border at the time (ukraine) and being questioned as to what he was doing there (watching football).

They can stop and hold you for anything at the border control. so hes actually lucky to be able to return to russia and make it to uk unscathed.

I was saying ive been stopped at a few places by really corrupt people + need to keep a clear head. In russia or ukraine I imagine it would be much worse for him.

So, about the threats then yes its bad but not a surprise within the context of the political situation there.

It looks like a very traumatic experience for him but it could have been much much worse and with the assistance of a good lawyer he should be ok for asylum.i imagine .

@bluemangroup asked you if you thought it was ok he should be receiving threats over his answers in an interview, to which you replied with some crap about travelling in South East Asia. Hardly relevant, pal.

 

[bluemangroup]

Hope you get sorted mate. You're welcome for a bowl of scouse any time when you get out.

Unfortunately he will have to go to Huyton Asylum to eat it.

 

[bluemangroup]

YES

IT has.