Current Affairs Harry and Megan part 2 (Electric Boogaloo)

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I suppose it’s if you consider the negative slant of media articles compared to Kate often exactly the same story might be rooted in racism . It’s whether you think an article describing her as descended from slaves appropriate. It’s if talking about her dna as ‘exotic ‘ is something that would happen if she’d been white or whether the ‘straight out of Compton ‘ or ‘gang ridden ‘ LA stuff has its basis in race or not . Then you’ve got the Danny baker tweet .

To be totally fair at no stage have I said that I think it’s racist what I’ve said is that when you look at it I think you find yourself wondering what other basis there is other than race .

So there you go I gave a number of reasons why others could perceive race to be an issue . Like you I didn’t have to but unlike you I’m not as convinced of the point I’ve just argued for . As a result you’ll have absolutely no problem giving me three or four things she’s done that convince you she’s a gold digger.

Good points - all very well made. I do think those examples you have listed are inappropriate behaviour. There is no denying it. It is mortifying that in the 21st century this sort of stuff still appears to be relevant to some people. With the Danny Baker tweet, my understanding of it was that he was not aware that she was mixed race. It doesn't excuse it though.

My point here is that those incidents, no matter how inappropriate, were not racist. They were race based articles done in terrible taste. There is no excuse for them. To claim they were racist is incorrect though. Is Meghan getting a hard time because of the colour of her skin. I say she isn't. If she was I would be the first to condemn it. I do not believe she has done herself any favours with regards to how they have conducted themselves. She was always going to take more flak for this situation than Harry because the British public have watched Harry grow up, and felt for him when his mother died etc. Meghan, whether justified or not, is always going to be the american film star that took him away. I would say that her being an american actress is more relevant in this situation than her race. Doesn't make it right though.

Having said that, I do believe that she hasn't helped herself here. It just seems off to me that they are going to America. I don't think that would have been Harry's idea. They will also make quite a lot of money with regards to the chat show circuit etc. I believe this is on her as well. For them both to copyright the "Sussex Royal" name reeks of gold digging as I don't think that would even have occurred to Harry.
 
What is that supposed to mean mate? Are you implying that because I do not think racism has anything to do with the Harry and Meghan situation , that I must be a racist? Is that what you are saying?

It was more a suggestion that there have previously been comments about Lukaku which seem to have as little basis as yours about Markle and it’s probably worth examining where they come from
 
I am owning it. I was implying, as I said, that the comments about her have a very similar tone to comments about Lukaku which seem rooted in something other than their actual actions. It doesn’t have to be overt racism to be racial bias

"seem rooted"

Just your opinion for your agenda then.
 
One woman marries into the royal family after having been born into wealth.

Another woman marries into the royal family after creating a successful (and richly remunerative) career for herself in the entertainment industry.

Spot the gold digger.

One is set to be the Queen of England. The others actual brother warned her future husband not to marry her as he believes her to he a gold digger.
 
Apart from actual published letters from her family stating as such?

in fairness I asked the question of a poster who said everything in her behaviour showed him , I asked him to clarify he didn’t reply .

I knew about the letter , I presume you mean the open letter written by her estranged half brother ? I’ll be honest I didn’t pay a lot of attention to the contents, my only real memory of it was how crap it must be on all sides . To not be invited to a wedding by siblings and for those siblings to correspond via the media . Hardly edifying on either side . I’ll be honest I didn’t know he called her a gold digger but regardless it doesn’t change my question you quoted nor frankly my position to be honest .
 
I am owning it. I was implying, as I said, that the comments about her have a very similar tone to comments about Lukaku which seem rooted in something other than their actual actions. It doesn’t have to be overt racism to be racial bias

So because Lukaku is black, and Meghan is mixed race, it must be the same thing? It doesn't matter that these are two very different discussions, because all you are seeing is the colour of their skin?

I can't stand Jordan Pickford - fine. I don't think Moise Kean is very good = RACIST!!!!

Nah.
 
in fairness I asked the question of a poster who said everything in her behaviour showed him , I asked him to clarify he didn’t reply .

I knew about the letter , I presume you mean the open letter written by her estranged half brother ? I’ll be honest I didn’t pay a lot of attention to the contents, my only real memory of it was how crap it must be on all sides . To not be invited to a wedding by siblings and for those siblings to correspond via the media . Hardly edifying on either side . I’ll be honest I didn’t know he called her a gold digger but regardless it doesn’t change my question you quoted nor frankly my position to be honest .

He says how her little bit of Hollywood has gone to her head and dont marry her etc. Then theres Harry touting her for work to Disney bigwigs - trademarking their title and various other examples.

She has realised that marrying into Royalty hasn't bought the vast wealth, power and freedom she expected and has backtracked. Now shes married into the A-list she has dollar signs in her eyes.
 
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