Waste of time sending him to the championship. Don't agree with it at all
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
As a bare minimum, we shouldn't be doing it without being certain of a new centre mid arriving
I also would have liked him to get a loan abroad, but if there were no takers then I prefer a loan to the Championship over him sitting on the bench for a few months - needs a recall clause though at least for Jan with the AFCON
If we don't get a replacement it's madness
I just think he's better here training with better players.
ToffeeScot
Player Valuation: £25m
He should be getting a lot of game time which is a good thing, but we also need to make sure we replace him in the squad.
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
I have the opposite view, but I'm not arrogant enough to think I'm definitely right
I tend to want players getting as many minutes at the highest level possible - if Moyes thinks he won't really play between now and Jan, then I'd rather he was loaned out til then (with an injury recall clause) but no issue with the opposite view tbh
I dont believe players can be recalled outside of transfer windows
Jamo Martinez
Player Valuation: £70m
Isn't a loan till December an option?
I'm reading a lot of suggestions of loan with a recall clause but we will defo need him in January.
Unless we are bringing in a couple of Phil Neville types who can cover Full back and midfield positions.
I'm reading a lot of suggestions of loan with a recall clause but we will defo need him in January.
Unless we are bringing in a couple of Phil Neville types who can cover Full back and midfield positions.
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
Can loaned players be returned early?
A loaned player may have their loan cancelled early, but this is rare and often involves one or both parties coming to an agreement to do so.There are two circumstances where this is most common.
First, the parent club experiences some sort of imminent need, such as an injury crisis, which leaves them few options at the player's position. In this situation, some loans have a break clause that the parent club can activate to return the player. Usually, this comes with some form of compensation to the loan club, usually a monetary fee.
This happened with Chelsea in January of 2024 when they suffered a number of injuries along the defensive line. They felt it best to recall Trevoh Chalobah from his season-long loan at Crystal Palace in the January window. In this instance, there was no fee required as Chelsea activated an existing option in his loan deal which allowed for a winter recall.
A second situation that could see a loan cancelled occurs when the player, through either injury or poor performance, has not earned the on-field minutes that would have made his loan purposeful. Thus, the two clubs could come to a termination agreement by which the player would return to his parent club, either to train in a more familiar environment or sort out a new loan where he could earn more playing time.
In this situation, it is often mutually beneficial for both clubs (and the player) to see the loan cancelled, and thus there is usually little or no compensation required in either direction to complete such a termination. This can either be done by mutual agreement, or the parent club may trigger a clause in the loan deal if there is one.
EDIT - you're right it seems, it's down to the registration issue of not being allowed to re-register until 1st Jan
30+ games in the Champo is better than 5/6 sub appearances for us this season.
Get him out on loan, smash it, and he starts every week next season
Get him out on loan, smash it, and he starts every week next season
That Chelsea example was during January though. I'm not sure it can be done before January when the window opens
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
You replied before I had chance to finish the edit on the post, you're right
