Groucho's Fact Hunt

[Groucho]

Evolution of Scouse

So, where did it all begin? Lancastrian Origins Prior to the mid-seventeenth century and the establishment of Liverpool as a major trading port, Liverpudlians spoke with a distinctively Lanc…

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Scouse’

Now that we’ve looked at the city’s history, where did the term ‘scouse’ actually come from? Why are people from Liverpool not just called ‘Liverpudlians’?

The first known usages of scouse as a name for people from Liverpool was during the First World War, where it was commonplace for soldiers to give each other friendly nicknames. It likely came from a dish known as Lobscouse which was made popular in the area. According to the English Dialect Dictionary, lobscouse is defined as “a dish of hashed meat stewed with potatoes and onions; an Irish stew.” [4] Scouse, or scouser, became a name attributed to those from Liverpool, and the former part of the word -‘lobby’- was attached to those from a more midland area.

That article is wrong about Penny Lane and also totally neglects to mention the huge Welsh influence on the accent.

 

[Eggs]

…..growing up in Everton in 50s/60s Spring Heeled Jack was still spoken about;


Spring Heeled Jack In Everton.
The Victorian Ghost / Demon / Prankster.

But who was he, will never really be known. But whoever he was, he enjoyed visiting Liverpool. It is well documented that he was spotted on the roof of St Francis Xaviers church and William Henry Street in Everton in 1888 and 1904.
But the terror of Victorian Britain was actually in Liverpool a year earlier. In 1887, he was spotted on the Pleasure Ground adjoining St Augustines church on Shaw Street. There was a 'rocky mount' on the Pleasure Ground and Spring Heeled Jack was seen standing on it in a 'statuesque pose.' He was described as wearing a garment that was white fronted but black at the back. When he spun around, eye witnesses described it has giving the impression of a lighthouse lamp.
That he was there is in no doubt, hundreds of people gathered to watch him. On one occasion, two local policemen attempted to catch him. They crept up behind him after squeezing through a gap in an iron fence. As they were about to grab him, Spring Heeled Jack literally disappeared, convincing onlookers he was indeed a spirit.
Spring Heeled Jack was later seen at Walton Church and a number of people claimed to have seen 'flying ghosts' at Bootles South Park - he was also sighted in Widnes.
If this wasn't scary enough, there were reports at the same time of a ghost at Anfield cemetery. He was named Andrew and was seen (dressed in white) moving in and out of the gravestones. A human head was also seen floating over the cemetery wall(!)

 

[Bluesaint]

….yep,I posted that one too

I did think it was you, Eggs but I didn’t have time to scroll through the comments to find it

 

[Eggs]

 

[Tommy Chong]

With the anniversary 9/11 having just passed, here’s something I bet you all didn’t know:



Imagine… It could have easily been a world without Family Guy, and Marky Mark movies.

 

[Rita_Poon]

The Marine one helicopter for the pres (not the zat man) is transported alongside his limo in a military super transporter.

McDonnell Douglas/Boeing C-17 Globemaster III or Lockheed C-5 Galaxy (this second one does sound like a phone).

 

[Groucho]

With the anniversary 9/11 having just passed, here’s something I bet you all didn’t know:



Imagine… It could have easily been a world without Family Guy, and Marky Mark movies.

Watch him do Kermit-the-Frog-doing-the-speech-from-Taken clip on YouTube for the Graham Norton Show. Deserves a spot in the funny stiff thread. I’ll link it in a sec to keep this thread on track.

Edit; link; https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/the-post-funny-stuff-thread.98727/page-2035#post-12308754

 

[larbert toffee]

I've just been reading up on Alan Clarke the late film producer(The Firm) apparently he was an Evertonian and named his son Gabriel Clarke (The sports reporter) after Jimmy Gabriel.

 

[John from Bootle]

A boring fact, but one I didn't know so therefore found it to be both interesting and surprising:

The city of Portsmouth is actually located on an island. The UK's most densely populated island. The island of Portsea.

 

[Eggs]

The River Mersey begins in Stockport, where the River Tame and River Goyt meet. Both of these rivers rise high in the hills, the Tame from natural springs and streams in the Pennines, and the Goyt from springs in the moors above Buxton.

These upland areas catch heavy rainfall, which soaks into the ground and feeds the springs, creating a constant flow of water.

That’s why the Mersey never runs dry, even though Liverpool itself doesn’t see enough rain to supply such a river. From these hilltop sources, the waters gather and flow west, becoming the great tidal estuary at Liverpool Bay.

 

[the golden visionary]

Salford is the only city located within another city in England, also it's completely surrounded by water, canals and stuff.

Source is everyone I've ever met from Salford, I used to work there too

 

[leslad]

Salford is the only city located within another city in England, also it's completely surrounded by water, canals and stuff.

Source is everyone I've ever met from Salford, I used to work there too

Llandaff in Cardiff has a similar story, though it's just kinda part of Cardiff now

 

[Blue 1]

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Other than Everton, ta-ra is the one bit of scousiness I picked up from my Liverpool family. It's been years, decades even, since I've spent a sustained amount of time in the city, but I still say "ta-ra".

 

[Kurt.]

The River Mersey begins in Stockport, where the River Tame and River Goyt meet. Both of these rivers rise high in the hills, the Tame from natural springs and streams in the Pennines, and the Goyt from springs in the moors above Buxton.

These upland areas catch heavy rainfall, which soaks into the ground and feeds the springs, creating a constant flow of water.

That’s why the Mersey never runs dry, even though Liverpool itself doesn’t see enough rain to supply such a river. From these hilltop sources, the waters gather and flow west, becoming the great tidal estuary at Liverpool Bay.

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Do you know why the Mersey runs through Liverpool ?






Cos if it walked it’d get mugged

HahahahahahHahahahahahaha

 

[Tommy Chong]

Watch him do Kermit-the-Frog-doing-the-speech-from-Taken clip on YouTube for the Graham Norton Show. Deserves a spot in the funny stiff thread. I’ll link it in a sec to keep this thread on track.

Edit; link; https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/the-post-funny-stuff-thread.98727/page-2035#post-12308754

Thought he sounded more like Ray Ramano, than Kermit the frog…

@Tommy Chong