Greatest English Club Side (MNF Ranking)

[Billysgingham.]

According to the MNF fans and experts, they’ve ranked the very best English teams of all time and come up with the below. Irrespective of what you think, it was an interesting watch to hear their reasoning.

Be interesting to see where the current top two fit into this lot.

1 - Liverpool 1975-1978 (Bob Paisley)
2 - Man Utd 2006-2009 (Alex Ferguson)
3 - Liverpool 1981-1984 (Bob Paisley, Joe Fagan)
3 - Man Utd 1998-2001 (Alex Ferguson)
5 - Nottingham Forest 1977-1980 (Brian Clough)
6 - Arsenal 2001-2004 (Arsene Wenger)
6 - Chelsea 2004-2007 (Jose Mourinho)
8 - Tottenham 1960-1963 (Bill Nicholson)
8 - Everton 1984-1987 (Howard Kendall)
10 - Aston Villa 1980-1983 (Ron Saunders / Tony Barton)
10 - Man Utd 1965-1968 (Matt Busby)
12 - Leeds 1968-1971 (Don Revie)

Discuss.

This is a thread by someone who likes the rs.

 

[KaiserEFC]

81 point haul drawing 12 games.

United 07-08, Chelsea 04-05, City centurions are better.

Look at the state of that City side now which is largely unchanged and arguably slightly better with Rodri. They are absolute nobodies who took advantage of a crap league and everyone being scared of them much like Liverpool

 

[Lelouch]

8 - Everton 1984-1987 (Howard Kendall)

feels bad being a 90s baby

 

[-Rob-]

Says a lot about the state of the game that so many "all time great" teams are together at once. Wealth concentration at the top is beyond out of control.

I think it comes down to living memory and also how much the game has moved on in recent times.

I'm sure there were probably some very good teams around in the 60s and even earlier but memories of how good they were will be fading and watching them in black and white on those uneven pitches with their outdated kits just doesn't make the football look as good as the current City & RS teams in HD on flat pitches and modern kits.

You only have to look back 20-30 years to see just how much the professionalism in the game has improved. That's improved the fitness and the standard of the players so it makes sense that the very best teams of the last 20 years will be better than the teams of 30, 40, 50 years ago. Personally I think the City team of last season and the RS team of this season are up there with the very best the world has ever seen......unfortunately.

 

[Thomasc]

Hmmmm

so it was a poll, on Monday night football, with an ex Man U and ex Liverpool player in the debate.

the two best supported sides in the country are Man U and Liverpool.

Man U and Liverpool sides took the top 4 votes sides between them.

All sounds completely legit and not one tiny bit biased.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

This is a thread by someone who likes the rs.

Whatever gives you that impression, William?

 

[Billysgingham.]

Whatever gives you that impression, William?

I can feel it in me water lad.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Hmmmm

so it was a poll, on Monday night football, with an ex Man U and ex Liverpool player in the debate.

the two best supported sides in the country are Man U and Liverpool.

Man U and Liverpool sides took the top 4 votes sides between them.

All sounds completely legit and not one tiny bit biased.

In fairness, they were fairly clear on their criteria and, based on that criteria, it would be hard to disagree.

Do you think that there is a case for any non Man Utd or Liverpool side being the best English side ever? I don't.

The great City, Chelsea and Arsenal sides never won a European Cup, where as the former two did - it's hard to create a reasonable set of criteria that puts any of those three above the great Utd / Liverpool sides.

Carragher said the Arsenal side was the best English side he played against. Neville said the Chelsea 04/05 side was the best English side he played against. They were certainly great teams and recognised as such, they just failed at key moments in Europe that really mattered.

 

[trueblue84]

It's probably too early to properly put them in context but the current City team is right up there. And unfortunately so are the RS if they come back and compete again next year.

Where Kendall's Everton end up if they can play in Europe and as a result hold on to Lineker, not have Howard leave and everything else is a great what if.

I just hope there's a parallel universe where some evertonians get to experience that reality.... Also, the one where we paid our rent and the rs never came into existence.

 

[Rob17896]

According to the MNF fans and experts, they’ve ranked the very best English teams of all time and come up with the below. Irrespective of what you think, it was an interesting watch to hear their reasoning.

Be interesting to see where the current top two fit into this lot.

1 - Liverpool 1975-1978 (Bob Paisley)
2 - Man Utd 2006-2009 (Alex Ferguson)
3 - Liverpool 1981-1984 (Bob Paisley, Joe Fagan)
3 - Man Utd 1998-2001 (Alex Ferguson)
5 - Nottingham Forest 1977-1980 (Brian Clough)
6 - Arsenal 2001-2004 (Arsene Wenger)
6 - Chelsea 2004-2007 (Jose Mourinho)
8 - Tottenham 1960-1963 (Bill Nicholson)
8 - Everton 1984-1987 (Howard Kendall)
10 - Aston Villa 1980-1983 (Ron Saunders / Tony Barton)
10 - Man Utd 1965-1968 (Matt Busby)
12 - Leeds 1968-1971 (Don Revie)

Discuss.

I think the only real answer is that they were all better than anyone else at the time. When you look at the stature of the clubs I think Brian Clough's Forest would count as the greatest achievement. Can't consider Chelsea as great as the others because of the sheer comparative purchasing power at the time.

 

[TheBigIguana]

I just hope there's a parallel universe where some evertonians get to experience that reality.... Also, the one where we paid our rent and the rs never came into existence.

Someone would have made another team. Basically every major UK city has multiple teams bar Newcastle, which was a much smaller city than Liverpool when clubs were being founded. It's just dumb that we actively caused it I guess.

 

[PITA]

I’m pretty sure someone tried to call @Keiran out on that in a match thread once and he replied with a photo of him a actually sat at the Newcastle game tbf to him lol

Probably went to get a voucher for the derby.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Probably went to get a voucher for the derby.

Clocked

 

[PITA]

Putting it out there, the Paisley and Fagan RS teams in their primes beat both City and Klopp’s current side, hell Dalglish’s late 80’s side alone beats Salah and co. Actually most of those great sides of the 60s, 70s and 80s beat most of the current day teams

It's very difficult to compare over time but in sports where you can, e.g. athletics, it would seem that those sports people are constantly improving.

 

[PITA]

Clocked

Seriously is that even a thing anymore?