GOT Fitness LOG

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If you don't eat bread what do you put your cheese on lads?

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[Billy Dean]

If you don't eat bread what do you put your cheese on lads?

scheisse. You've just blown my healthy eating plan apart.

 

[Azzurri]

I've got 13% body fat, do lots of cardio type exercise and never go to the gym.

But according to BMI ratings I'm nearly overweight.

LOL SCIENCE. Wut???

 

[evilwebby]

I've got 13% body fat, do lots of cardio type exercise and never go to the gym.

But according to BMI ratings I'm nearly overweight.

LOL SCIENCE. Wut???

Usain Bolt is has a BMI of 24.7.
Jonah Lomu has a BMI of 31.2.

Here's the thing though. Most people are not built anything like Usain Bolt or Jonah Lomu. Be sensible... if you work out and are packing a lot of muscle, of course you're going to be a few standard deviations outside of the norms... in which case forget BMI even exists and track your waist:height ratio instead.
What I hate is when the normal, ie not particularly athletic population start to quote people like these athletes to rubbish BMI and use it to ignore the fact that they're actually a little podgy. BMI is useful.. not perfect. A little common sense is required!

BTW when I was around 13% boy fat, my BMI would have been about 24.5, so that sounds about right to me!

 

[Azzurri]

Usain Bolt is has a BMI of 24.7.
Jonah Lomu has a BMI of 31.2.

Here's the thing though. Most people are not built anything like Usain Bolt or Jonah Lomu. Be sensible... if you work out and are packing a lot of muscle, of course you're going to be a few standard deviations outside of the norms... in which case forget BMI even exists and track your waist:height ratio instead.
What I hate is when the normal, ie not particularly athletic population start to quote people like these athletes to rubbish BMI and use it to ignore the fact that they're actually a little podgy. BMI is useful.. not perfect. A little common sense is required!

Aye mate, I'm a sports science student and that does my head in.

Clearly you're not built like Jonah Lomu, you fat mess. Phil Taylor is an 'athlete' you can compare yourself to.

I get the science behind it all really like, but just choose to believe that my bones are made of lead.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You can tell pretty accurately how fit you are just by standing in front of a mirror, right? That's often a better gauge than BMI and all that.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

And when I say fit, I obviously mean in a general weight sense rather than any kind of sporting fitness.

 

[thirdmantackle]

If you don't eat bread what do you put your cheese on lads?

oatcakes

 

[evilwebby]

You can tell pretty accurately how fit you are just by standing in front of a mirror, right? That's often a better gauge than BMI and all that.

Not a bad gauge, but it won't tell you much about the visceral fat you are holding, which as far as health goes is actually much more important than just the subcutaneous (skin level) fat.

What we need is full DEXA scanning

 

[Tooley1878]

Gents regards protein shakes! Im currently using a PHD diet whey shake, but only using it after training.. Is this right ?
I know some have it every day ? any advice?

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

If you don't eat bread what do you put your cheese on lads?

organic rye bread

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Gents regards protein shakes! Im currently using a PHD diet whey shake, but only using it after training.. Is this right ?
I know some have it every day ? any advice?

How much protein do you need and how much do you currently get via your diet?

 

[Tooley1878]

How much protein do you need and how much do you currently get via your diet?

I eat loads of protein, but I see some people having it as a breakfast supplement to slim down?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I eat loads of protein, but I see some people having it as a breakfast supplement to slim down?

Again, how many calories are you eating and how many are you burning off each day? All of this is largely a matter of maths I wouldn't worry about what other folks do, nor what the marketing campaigns tell you to do.

 

[thirdmantackle]

you don't need protein shakes if you are eating enough of it - chicken, egg, fish, lean meat.
Most people on protein shakes don't actually need it. They are brainwashed. A glass of chocolate milk is just as good.

However, if you are doing some serious training - weights and other explosive stuff, then it can be a useful recovery tool taken afterwards.