Current Affairs George Floyd and Minneapolis Unrest

[SteveSC]

Yes, you do stand to be corrected - which is most often going to be the case when one tosses out absolutes as you have done here.

San Diego, Jacksonville, Ft. Worth, Oklahoma City... and many, many more. All Republican mayors. All cities with property damage and police retaliation against protestors.

This isn't an issue for the left-right continuum nonsense.

Yep San Diego and Orange county (CA not Florida) are largely Republican

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Ruairi77]

On a different note, no hassle sorting top notch PPE for the cops, I see...

 

[Pettifogger]

This may be a lot, so please bear with me. Thought can be difficult but your friends here at GOT are dedicated to helping you practice it.

Antifa is a group — probably so, although it’s organization seems to empower individuals to act more than act as a group in the traditional sense

Of disaffected losers — it’s not clear that they’re socially equal to incels/QAnon types/infowars listeners, but that’s possible. I won’t debate this although it seems a talking point for the Fox News watchers. For that I’m thankful they’ve finally moved on from “Benghazi” and “but her emails!”

Who seek to harm people — this is not obvious but they do love their anarchy, as we’ll see below. Whatever their goals, they seem very much like the “proud boys” and nothing like the Ku Klux Klan, insofar as they aim to harm persons.

Damage property — as anarchists, yes they live to damage property, which is most Republicans’ first love. Now I see why the Fox News types hate them so much.

And stifle free speech through violence — this is a spurious if not interesting claim. It’s not clear they are intent on stifling free speech at all. And if they are intent on doing so then to use violence to suppress the right to assemble and speak—well that’s clearly a paramilitary tactic and there’s no evidence they are a paramilitary organization. But now I can see why POTUS hates them so, they seem to use his preferred methods, if what you claim is true.

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Most of this is gibberish. I'll skip the insults so I don't get another warning (what, you don't get those!?)

Countless examples of Antifa committing violence in California, Portland and now everywhere. It is mob activity, obviously they're not capable of much on an individual basis. I wouldn't call them anarchists in a general sense. Some probably are. I'd argue there are probably "anarchist-like" participants who wouldn't claim that label but who fit it because they're radicals for the sake of radicalism.

I don't get your point on free speech. Because you deem them non-paramilitary, they can't be a free speech suppression entity? Seems strange. How should we classify them threatening violence when someone like Ben Shapiro tries to speak at a school in California (and getting such speakers cancelled due to security issues)?

 

[dandydan]

Just caught up on news - we don't usually have much good to say about that lot across the park, but full marks for the picture at the center circle today.

#BLM #YMCA. Anything bar Heysel

 

[Pettifogger]

I thought the conservatives were in favour of the police?

Can't see how introducing the military will help in that case.

It's a solid quip. But the reality is that innocents have been killed, and many more severely injured, by rioters/protestors/whatever you want to call them.

 

[Pettifogger]

On a different note, no hassle sorting top notch PPE for the cops, I see...

Great news IMO

 

[Jebus_lives]

It's a solid quip. But the reality is that innocents have been killed, and many more severely injured, by rioters/protestors/whatever you want to call them.

I'm sure you don't have to conflate them all.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[SerenityNigh]

Most of this is gibberish. I'll skip the insults so I don't get another warning (what, you don't get those!?)

Countless examples of Antifa committing violence in California, Portland and now everywhere. It is mob activity, obviously they're not capable of much on an individual basis. I wouldn't call them anarchists in a general sense. Some probably are. I'd argue there are probably "anarchist-like" participants who wouldn't claim that label but who fit it because they're radicals for the sake of radicalism.

I don't get your point on free speech. Because you deem them non-paramilitary, they can't be a free speech suppression entity? Seems strange. How should we classify them threatening violence when someone like Ben Shapiro tries to speak at a school in California (and getting such speakers cancelled due to security issues)?

If Antifa is shutting down Shapiro speaking engagements? Give the an IRS 501c3 designation as a religious group because that may be doing God’s work.

 

[Ruairi77]

Great news IMO

Just highlights it’s incredibly inept federal response to COVID19.
not as much money in medical PPE I suppose.

 

[Pettifogger]

I'm sure you don't have to conflate them all.

It's exhausting. I literally said "whatever you want to call them." I'm talking about the people doing actual violence, not anyone and everyone.

 

[Pettifogger]

If Antifa is shutting down Shapiro speaking engagements? Give the an IRS 501c3 designation as a religious group because that may be doing God’s work.

Man you sound like a Trump voter

One of us one of us

Shapiro is a shrimp, no need to be afraid of him

 

[dandydan]

If Antifa is shutting down Shapiro speaking engagements? Give the an IRS 501c3 designation as a religious group because that may be doing God’s work.

Who is he? and can you point to his fascism?

 

[SerenityNigh]

Most of this is gibberish. I'll skip the insults so I don't get another warning (what, you don't get those!?)

Also, generally you only get warnings for personal attacks. I attacked ideas you may like, so it feels personal, but I didn’t attack you. I only called you a dumbass .

If you take the insults personally and the argument turns into a tour de force of asshattery, I think that’s when the vacations get handed out.

I did once get a reprimand for calling the mods nazis or Tories (forgot now which) and they didn’t like it, but that’s before RAFUH came in and changed the decor.