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She’s talking about undocumented immigrants. Personally I don’t believe anyone should be excluded from distribution, regardless of status, especially those at high risk. It does change the tone of the tweet a bit if we’re being fair, and she’s actually saying citizens should have priority though. Again, still think she’s wrong wrong, but this seems to be lacking a bit of context.
 
She’s talking about undocumented immigrants. Personally I don’t believe anyone should be excluded from distribution, regardless of status, especially those at high risk. It does change the tone of the tweet a bit if we’re being fair, and she’s actually saying citizens should have priority though. Again, still think she’s wrong wrong, but this seems to be lacking a bit of context.
I agree that the quote is lacking context, but her position is still unbelievably stupid. The virus doesn’t give a single **** about your immigration status. If any of these people are working in jobs where they are at high risk for contracting (and then inevitably spreading) COVID, they need to be vaccinated with all possible haste.

It’s ultimately more beneficial for the country at large for an undocumented worker in a job with a high rate of transmission to be vaccinated before someone like me, who while a full citizen, works outdoors and by myself most of the time.
 
I agree that the quote is lacking context, but her position is still unbelievably stupid. The virus doesn’t give a single **** about your immigration status. If any of these people are working in jobs where they are at high risk for contracting (and then inevitably spreading) COVID, they need to be vaccinated with all possible haste.

It’s ultimately more beneficial for the country at large for an undocumented worker in a job with a high rate of transmission to be vaccinated before someone like me, who while a full citizen, works outdoors and by myself most of the time.
Totally agree. It’s a stupid position, but not for the reason the tweet was trying to portray. If the tweet said “Arizona politician believes citizens should be prioritized in vaccine distribution,” it wouldn’t have gotten the attention they wanted it to.
 
From WaPo.

Beware the GOP's COVID Revisionism
Paul Waldman


It’s hard to know from where we sit today whether it would ever have been possible for the coronavirus pandemic not to be politicized — though the experience of countries not burdened with a president like Donald Trump and a party like the GOP certainly tells us that a different path was possible.

Unfortunately, we were so burdened, which means that not only have we struggled to assemble a unified purpose and determination to overcome the pandemic, even when it’s over we’ll still be fighting about how to remember it.
You can already see the shape of that disagreement in the way Republicans are revising recent history. To summarize, this is the argument they’ll make in the coming years:
  • Trump did a great job on the pandemic.
  • Whatever success President Biden has in cleaning up the mess Trump made only proves that the pandemic was no big deal in the first place.
  • The damage the economy suffered was not because of the pandemic itself but because of Democratic politicians who overreacted to it.
  • Republican officials who denied, minimized and politicized the threat of the virus are the real heroes.
To see how it works, let me refer you to a recent Fox News appearance by South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, an ardent Trumpite and election denier who is now being held up on the right as the architect of a covid success story. Here’s what she told Laura Ingraham about criticism she has received over her policies related to the pandemic:

I really think it's about control. They have used for the last year fear to control people. And in South Dakota, we just took a very different path. We knew the science told us we couldn't stop the virus. We could slow it down and protect people who might be vulnerable and make sure we had enough hospital capacity to take care of those who would need it. But that we were going to do it together and allow people to be flexible to take care of their families and still put food on the table.
So that was a unique approach that for our people really worked well. We did have tragedies and we did have losses, but we also got through it better than virtually every other state. And I think the media hates that, because it really is a testimony to what Republicans believe in, what we conservatives believe in.

You probably know that South Dakota most certainly did not “get through it better than virtually every other state.” In fact, South Dakota has had more covid cases per capita than any state except North Dakota, and more deaths per capita than all but five other states.
You can give South Dakota credit for a vaccine rollout that has been efficient so far (though with a population about the size of Charlotte, the state has fewer challenges than larger states). So the point is not that every single thing the state did was wrong. And there are plenty of examples of governors in both parties making mistakes over the course of the past year.

But Republicans will argue that “what Republicans believe in, what we conservatives believe in” triumphed, when in so many cases it was the cause of needless suffering and death.

To be clear, there were Republican officials who acted responsibly throughout the pandemic. But one of the defining features of the tragic era we’re struggling to get past was that “What Republicans believe in” was Donald Trump.
So when Trump denied so many times that the pandemic was anything to worry about, when he mocked public health measures as a sign of weakness, when he promoted quack treatments, those became their beliefs. And though he may be gone, his misdeeds must continue to be defended, because to acknowledge his monumental failure would be to implicate them, too.

Democrats have their political arguments as well — they argue that collective problems like a global pandemic can be addressed only by a strong, competent government, which is why, for instance, we have to make investments to put in place systems capable of responding when the crisis arrives.
 
Not sure where this goes, but this is quite good: (I would still ban fracking though)



He just needs to wait and see. Wait for what, we don't know. See what, we're even less sure. But something will happen provided people don't moan or act on the issues at hand.
 
Not sure where this goes, but this is quite good: (I would still ban fracking though)


He just needs to wait and see. Wait for what, we don't know. See what, we're even less sure. But something will happen provided people don't moan or act on the issues at hand.


Sorry, I have no idea why I replied to this link with this. I was trying to reply to some article about a silk manufacturer in the EU and I must have crossed tabs
 

Speaking of him, I note that the "cancel culture" currently appalling the right wing somehow doesn't include firing someone who refused to fiddle statistics, nor does it include then sending the cops to raid her house, or even getting a warrant for her arrest.
 
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