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[Sean Ashley]

Personally I think that's an excellent summary.

Instead of just posting a crap gif
- how about offering your opinion on where you feel he's wrong?

Tbh your rambling are no more than just

 

[Blue 1]

Never knew Graham Linehan was an Evertonian.

 

[d34noj]

You’ve openly admitted in this thread to sending explicit pics to other members and alluded to searching for pictures of trans people masturbating in bathrooms.
This is on top of flip-flopping on what issue you want to pearl-clutch over.

Is it women’s spaces? Protecting children? Suggesting trans people are perverts? Suggesting pride is a hub of deviancy?

You do not get to look down your nose after all this. Emir levels of WUM at this point.

Where have I said that?

I searched for ARTICLES, I stated it on the post with the links. I've sent no explicit pics, I've sent a single link to a newsfeed.

I don't look down my nose at anyone, I'm stating FACTS about a deviancy under the umbrella of LGBT. I understand you're sensitive about the subject, but unfortunately it doesn't make me wrong.


You're REALLLLLLLY going to have to do better than this mate. Wipe your tears and give me evidence to the contrary.

 

[bluestevon]

If someone has Anorexia or any form of body dysmorphia, they are essentially aunhappy with their appearance and maybe see something that others cant, ie, they believe they are fat or overweight when they are anything but. This is treated as a severe mental illness, and noone in their right mind would dare to validate their own distorted views for fear of the person causing themselves more harm.

But if you have gender dysphoria, you are essentially aunhappy with your appearance and maybe see something that others cant, ie, you believe you are a female when you are a male.

But this is somehow NOT treated as a severe mental illness, and to the contrary, everyone is primed to validate their distorted views for fear of offending seemingly everyone.

Ive read about the differences between dysmorphia and dysphoria, and apart from the clear distinction in cases it applies to, I'll be [Poor language removed] if i can worl out the difference.

On a curious note, scitzophrenia is not provable in any medical test, only by the diagnosis of a psychiatrist.

Whose to say they aren't actually hearing real voices in their head? Why then shouldn't all accept them as just being different, tell teens (as that's when it mostly develops) that if they start hearing voices to listen to the voices, maybe even do what the voices say, after all these voices are internal to them and part of who they are.

Can then push a wider narrative that wider society should now listen to what schizophrenics say and accept it as truth.

Btw in certain ancient societies people with schizophrenia could be perceived as holy men/women with the voices being the word of the divine etc...

 

[Kurt.]

New levels …. Amazing

 

[Kever10]

Never knew Graham Linehan was an Evertonian.

Be great if he was.

Between him and Arthur Matthews, they are responsible for Father Ted, Big Train, the IT crowd and Toast of London.

Genius.

 

[davek]

Transgender people have right to be recognised in legally acquired gender, court hears

For Women Scotland is challenging ruling extending definition of ‘woman’ to transgender women with GRC

www.theguardian.com

Cant wait to hear what the hobgoblin woman says about this ruling in her own backyard.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

New levels …. Amazing

It's like FB92 never left, even he could make this dribble up.

 

[d34noj]

It's like FB92 never left, even he could make this dribble up.

What am I making up?

 

[Blue 1]

Be great if he was.

Between him and Arthur Matthews, they are responsible for Father Ted, Big Train, the IT crowd and Toast of London.

Genius.

I know, some of my favourite telly in there.

It's a genuine shame he thinks posting pseudoscientific, vituperative nonsense about trans people online is more important than his family and writing fantastic comedy these days.

 

[d34noj]

I know, some of my favourite telly in there.

It's a genuine shame he thinks posting pseudoscientific, vituperative nonsense about trans people online is more important than his family and writing fantastic comedy these days.

Excellent word.

I'm not sure i've seen his posts - can you add some of the pseudoscience? Are his posts disagreement with the purpoted science of trans, or just plain bigotry?

 

[wandyr79]

So my evidence comes from the National Library of Medicine. Not sure if that's a good enough source for you fellows.

Here we are.

This one is from The Gender Dysphoria Alliance, written by a self-confessed Autogynephiliac. Again, probably not a good enough source.

Again, here we are.


I could go on and on with peer reviewed evidence, first person articles and interviews - but I'm 100% convinced the virtue signalling elites in here wouldn't believe a word of it.


I'll not expect serious replies or a reasoned debate about these, just the same as everything else I've posted - I'll just wait for the gifs and the 'doesn't happen'.

I am not one to say things don't happen. What I have a problem with is taking isolated cases and applying it to the whole community, or at least the majority.

I have a problem with people taking isolated cases of a persons experience and associating it to the whole community, or at least the majority.

I have a problem with people taking isolated cases and then making a correlation between those and the whole community, they then all (majority) suddenly become sexual deviants who prey upon women/children.

I have a problem with people taking isolated cases and using these to say that there are people out there who will take advantage of any rules that are made to help them, to ensure that they also have the opportunity to feel safe and comfortable in themselves, and then applying a blanket ban on all within that community, regardless of their own personal situation.

You are right, people should have safe spaces, nobody is denying this, but putting a blanket over a community is not the right way to do it. I don't have the answers as I am not in the mind of every person in this world. Are they a wrong un, are they just confused, are they mentally ill, or are they just another human being trying to get by in this very strange world we live in. A world who has people judging the majority based on isolated cases and telling them that they are all (majority) deviant, they are all (majority) ill, they all (majority) need help.

If we are to have blanket bans based on the possibility of sexual attacks, and the using isolated cases to promote this, then I am sure I could come up with an even more compelling argument to have ALL men on solitary house arrest.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I am not one to say things don't happen. What I have a problem with is taking isolated cases and applying it to the whole community, or at least the majority.

I have a problem with people taking isolated cases of a persons experience and associating it to the whole community, or at least the majority.

I have a problem with people taking isolated cases and then making a correlation between those and the whole community, they then all (majority) suddenly become sexual deviants who prey upon women/children.

I have a problem with people taking isolated cases and using these to say that there are people out there who will take advantage of any rules that are made to help them, to ensure that they also have the opportunity to feel safe and comfortable in themselves, and then applying a blanket ban on all within that community, regardless of their own personal situation.

You are right, people should have safe spaces, nobody is denying this, but putting a blanket over a community is not the right way to do it. I don't have the answers as I am not in the mind of every person in this world. Are they a wrong un, are they just confused, are they mentally ill, or are they just another human being trying to get by in this very strange world we live in. A world who has people judging the majority based on isolated cases and telling them that they are all (majority) deviant, they are all (majority) ill, they all (majority) need help.

If we are to have blanket bans based on the possibility of sexual attacks, and the using isolated cases to promote this, then I am sure I could come up with an even more compelling argument to have ALL men on solitary house arrest.

Excellent post

 

[d34noj]

I am not one to say things don't happen. What I have a problem with is taking isolated cases and applying it to the whole community, or at least the majority.

I have a problem with people taking isolated cases of a persons experience and associating it to the whole community, or at least the majority.

I have a problem with people taking isolated cases and then making a correlation between those and the whole community, they then all (majority) suddenly become sexual deviants who prey upon women/children.

I have a problem with people taking isolated cases and using these to say that there are people out there who will take advantage of any rules that are made to help them, to ensure that they also have the opportunity to feel safe and comfortable in themselves, and then applying a blanket ban on all within that community, regardless of their own personal situation.

You are right, people should have safe spaces, nobody is denying this, but putting a blanket over a community is not the right way to do it. I don't have the answers as I am not in the mind of every person in this world. Are they a wrong un, are they just confused, are they mentally ill, or are they just another human being trying to get by in this very strange world we live in. A world who has people judging the majority based on isolated cases and telling them that they are all (majority) deviant, they are all (majority) ill, they all (majority) need help.

If we are to have blanket bans based on the possibility of sexual attacks, and the using isolated cases to promote this, then I am sure I could come up with an even more compelling argument to have ALL men on solitary house arrest.

Many thanks for the civil reply mate - it's quite rare in here, i'm genuinely wanting debate, other peoples opinions and factual evidence to the contrary of what I post so I have the option to alter my viewpoint. Like I said previously I was genuinely upset when somebody mentioned their friend wouldn't dare use the bathroom on a night out and that made me think alternatively.

However that argument brings it's own perspective on this debate, if she doesn't feel safe entering the Men's bathroom for fear of assault; sexual or physical - we're essentially saying that Men are a threat to women in public bathrooms which validates the entire argument.



You're absolutely right, We (I) shouldn't assume everyone that is trans is a sexual predator, 99% of them won't be - should we have to take the risk on the 1%? A 2 year study in the US found 73.6% of Transgender men are attracted to biological women. There's dozens of instances of women & girls being attacked in bathrooms, womens shelters, changing rooms (i'm sure you're aware & I really don't have the energy to link some), these could be avoided if biology was at the forefront of the debate.


Again, thanks for the civil response.

 

[Kever10]

I am not one to say things don't happen. What I have a problem with is taking isolated cases and applying it to the whole community, or at least the majority.

I have a problem with people taking isolated cases of a persons experience and associating it to the whole community, or at least the majority.

I have a problem with people taking isolated cases and then making a correlation between those and the whole community, they then all (majority) suddenly become sexual deviants who prey upon women/children.

I have a problem with people taking isolated cases and using these to say that there are people out there who will take advantage of any rules that are made to help them, to ensure that they also have the opportunity to feel safe and comfortable in themselves, and then applying a blanket ban on all within that community, regardless of their own personal situation.

You are right, people should have safe spaces, nobody is denying this, but putting a blanket over a community is not the right way to do it. I don't have the answers as I am not in the mind of every person in this world. Are they a wrong un, are they just confused, are they mentally ill, or are they just another human being trying to get by in this very strange world we live in. A world who has people judging the majority based on isolated cases and telling them that they are all (majority) deviant, they are all (majority) ill, they all (majority) need help.

If we are to have blanket bans based on the possibility of sexual attacks, and the using isolated cases to promote this, then I am sure I could come up with an even more compelling argument to have ALL men on solitary house arrest.

Most people take isolated cases seriously. If you heard an isolated case of a strange man hanging around your kids school, or following a local woman home, or perhaps that there had been a local burglary, would your senses not be heightened? It's the exception that tests the rule. The outlier gives you pause. Of course you're not going to be afraid of something that can never/will never happen. But the fact that it can, gives the opportunity in the 1st place.

In addition, this needs clearing up, because people keep stating it as though this is the crux of the argument, and its not. Nobody is saying that it's genuine Trans people, who are often vulnerable themselves, committing crimes. The argument is that the rule change weakens the safeguarding issue and gives cover to those who feel emboldened to use the exemption to their benefit.

If a man decides to enter a female bathroom, and I'm not even just talking about actual physical assault here, but perhaps he goes in to take photographs, and he knows that by law, he can freely enter, without question, knowing all he has to do is say he identifies as a female and he has the right to be there. Can you honestly not see how this is a problem?

Like i say, this is not anti trans, it's just common sense.