Gareth Barry

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however you think he played the decision to move him to left back confirmed martinez's bizarre obsession, if you want him out of midfield to give us more attacking options then just take him off, don't take galloway off and play a slow 35 year left back, i think that is pretty obvious tactics wise
 
What's up with people wanting our DM's to be much-much more than just a DM? Slagging Barry off for not providing creative passes, criticizing McCarthy for the similar reasons. They are defensive midfielders, it's not they fault that they have to play together.

Barry did OK today, don't see why he's 'done' or 'finished'.
you mean people actually want them to be footballers????? pass the ball in a proactive manner???????????? what an outrageous demand
 
Yeah he's done. Can't have 2 defensive MIDs and concede like we do so someone has to go.

I think someone like Henderson has shown you don't have to be skilled at the job to do the job just need to run about, which Cleverly and Besic have.
besic is injured and cleverly isnt a defensive midfielder.
 

I think he means we don't need two dm's, as in two people who think they have no responsibility at all to do anything in an attacking manner, assuming macarthy is fit
depends on the situation but yeah especially if no one is going to mark anyone. everyones slating barry today but mccarthy wasn't closing out at all, jogged out to the crosser on their first goal and no where to be seen on their 2nd (after barry was moved to the back four). Mccarthy is great for us but had a mare today
 
you mean people actually want them to be footballers????? pass the ball in a proactive manner???????????? what an outrageous demand

what Barry supposed to do is win us the ball and then pass it to a player near him who will think about the way of moving it forward. His partner in the midfield is usually McCarthy, who is also a DM and doesn't have the ability of passing the ball in a 'proactive manner', so they end up passing it around until the opposition takes the ball away from us.

Is it Barry's (or McCarthy's or Besic') fault that have to play alongside each other? They don't pick themselves mate.

Martinez said that he's looking for a creative player so if he can bring him and then play him with Barry then maybe Barry won't look 'useless' and 'done' to some fans because today he showed that he's still fine when it comes to doing the work he's supposed to be doing.
 
what Barry supposed to do is win us the ball and then pass it to a player near him who will think about the way of moving it forward. His partner in the midfield is usually McCarthy, who is also a DM and doesn't have the ability of passing the ball in a 'proactive manner', so they end up passing it around until the opposition takes the ball away from us.

Is it Barry's (or McCarthy's or Besic') fault that have to play alongside each other? They don't pick themselves mate.

Martinez said that he's looking for a creative player so if he can bring him and then play him with Barry then maybe Barry won't look 'useless' and 'done' to some fans because today he showed that he's still fine when it comes to doing the work he's supposed to be doing.

So McCarthy will be out of the side if we get this creative player to help barry?
 

So McCarthy will be out of the side if we get this creative player to help barry?

Of course not, in that scenario James should play and Barry should be dropped, at least if McCarthy can perform on his usual levels. I'm just saying that you should judge a DM like a DM and not like a playmaker. There is a job for every type of player.
 

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