Game Of Thrones Television series *may contain spoilers*
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neil999
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I'm thick mate could you expand?
Donald Twain
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I've had a gut full now !
Efcjake
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When the two show runners announced before the season kicked off that the next few seasons were going to be shorter I was immediately worried. My concern was that they were going to be rushing through the plot and as a result the entire product's quality would suffer. That is exactly what is happening right now.
It has now become a race to the end.
Arya. My god, what the hell has happened there? Nearly everything about this plot resolution does not make sense. For starters the parkour-ing whilst having only recently avoided being gutted by the Waif. The convenient medical skills of the actress. The Waif not finishing off the kill in any of the many opportunities. The blatantly obvious bloody handprint trail. Then they resolve the fight off screen. She walks into the House of Black and White and just says "Thanks but on second thoughts I'm not really interested in being no-one" and they just let her go.
Now most readers always felt it was inevitable Arya would not complete her training and give up her identity. No issue there. The issue is HOW they resolved it. Plot holes everywhere and at the end of it no real consequences for her decision to turn her back on a cult of assassins.
Tyrion. What's he actually done this season? He's gone for a walk, persuaded a red priestess to preach about Dany, and has been cracking jokes with Missandei and Grey Worm. No character growth here. He's been sitting on his hands waiting for Danaerys to finally return, and she does, in the most convenient time for the plot before Tyrion does himself in out of boredom.
Jaime. What the hell is going on? He's down a completely different path than he is going in the books. He's still madly in love with Cersei and rationalizing her madness. Threatens to catapult Edmure's baby over the walls for love.
Bran. We get about 5 minutes screen time of him learning about his greenseeing powers before all hell breaks loose in time for an action scene that I would suggest was moved earlier in the series for the sake of keeping the show-watchers interested in his plot. We've learned nothing about Bloodraven, the tower of joy, how the whole Weirwood.NET works....
Absolutely gutted with how they killed off Cleganebowl and Lady Stoneheart as well.
Now most readers always felt it was inevitable Arya would not complete her training and give up her identity. No issue there. The issue is HOW they resolved it. Plot holes everywhere and at the end of it no real consequences for her decision to turn her back on a cult of assassins.
Tyrion. What's he actually done this season? He's gone for a walk, persuaded a red priestess to preach about Dany, and has been cracking jokes with Missandei and Grey Worm. No character growth here. He's been sitting on his hands waiting for Danaerys to finally return, and she does, in the most convenient time for the plot before Tyrion does himself in out of boredom.
Jaime. What the hell is going on? He's down a completely different path than he is going in the books. He's still madly in love with Cersei and rationalizing her madness. Threatens to catapult Edmure's baby over the walls for love.
Bran. We get about 5 minutes screen time of him learning about his greenseeing powers before all hell breaks loose in time for an action scene that I would suggest was moved earlier in the series for the sake of keeping the show-watchers interested in his plot. We've learned nothing about Bloodraven, the tower of joy, how the whole Weirwood.NET works....
Absolutely gutted with how they killed off Cleganebowl and Lady Stoneheart as well.
It has now become a race to the end.
Hellerad
j'accuse!
Sansa secretly promises to marry Littlefinger in exchange for military support. John secretly secures the support of the Greywaters (Reeds). John and Sansa take Winterfell without a fight after the Umbers (and Manderlys) betray the Boltons with the three armies gathered outside of Winterfell (Ramsay is fed to the dogs as his father warned him would happen because of his cruelty). We discover Littlefinger had the Umbers in his pocket and Rickon was another pawn for his schemes. The Arryns return to the Eyrie. Sansa unites the north. John, the Reeds, and the Stark army ride south to the Neck.
The tension between the Faith, the Lannisters, and the Tyrells continues. Arya shows up in Kings Landing and assassinates Cersei and The Mountain. Jamie thinks the Faith were behind it. The Tyrells abandon Kings Landing and return home. Jamie abandons the north to march on Kings Landing.
Edmure Tully reveals the Blackfish was not killed and retakes Riverrun. The northern army and the Tully army take The Twins. Also possible that Arya continues her murder spree and takes out Walder Frey (and maybe Littlefinger?).
Daenerys destroys the Masters' fleet and the bulk of their military power with the help of her dragons (and maybe the Ironborn, can't figure out Euron's part as he's so vastly different than in the books). As a result, Daenerys unites the Free Cities and secures their future. She also has the loyalty of the Dothraki and likely at least one faction of the Ironborn. In the books, Daenerys is supposed to go East into Asshai and I think the introduction of the red priestesses means she probably will before eventually heading to Dragonstone.
Daenerys offers the Houses of Westeros the right to retain titles and lands if they swear fealty (like her ancestors did). The Tyrells offer allegiance. Daenerys claims Dorne through Rhaegar's marriage to Elia. Dorne is effectively leaderless, Varys lays the groundwork for alliance, and the Sand Snakes refuse to honor the claim of "any man" which is a convenient foreshadowing for Daenerys.
This leaves Westeros divided as follows: Northern Alliance under Sansa and John; Daenerys poised for conquest in the South; the Lannisters battling the Faith in the middle.
Samwell discovers the Maesters are trying to suppress/eliminate magic from the world. They had almost done so by killing all the dragons last time around. He runs from Oldtown (what he does best) and tells John what the maesters have done/are planning. This reveals the Seven to be a vast conspiracy and maybe reveals the Faith's part in destroying House Targaryen (as revenge for taking away the Faith's powers). .
I think Jamie dies at some point during this or is forced to take the Black and Tyrion inherits the Lannister lands, uniting the South under Daenerys. "The dragon has three riders" means John unites the North, Daenerys unites the South, and Tyrion brings in the rest. Conquest by diplomacy this time (mostly).
John Snow is revealed to be Rhaegar and Lyanna's child: John Targaryen. The great houses of Stark and Targaryen are joined in alliance. Daenarys learns about the Maester conspiracy and takes Kings Landing and Oldtown and destroys/subverts the Faith. The "conquest" of Westeros is completed in time for a final showdown between The Lord of Light and The Others.
Bran Stark is revealed to have been popping in and out of history for a thousand years as "Bran the Builder" and has influenced just enough to delay the Others for long enough for everybody else to unite against them.
Big battle for humanity. Scenes.
The tension between the Faith, the Lannisters, and the Tyrells continues. Arya shows up in Kings Landing and assassinates Cersei and The Mountain. Jamie thinks the Faith were behind it. The Tyrells abandon Kings Landing and return home. Jamie abandons the north to march on Kings Landing.
Edmure Tully reveals the Blackfish was not killed and retakes Riverrun. The northern army and the Tully army take The Twins. Also possible that Arya continues her murder spree and takes out Walder Frey (and maybe Littlefinger?).
Daenerys destroys the Masters' fleet and the bulk of their military power with the help of her dragons (and maybe the Ironborn, can't figure out Euron's part as he's so vastly different than in the books). As a result, Daenerys unites the Free Cities and secures their future. She also has the loyalty of the Dothraki and likely at least one faction of the Ironborn. In the books, Daenerys is supposed to go East into Asshai and I think the introduction of the red priestesses means she probably will before eventually heading to Dragonstone.
Daenerys offers the Houses of Westeros the right to retain titles and lands if they swear fealty (like her ancestors did). The Tyrells offer allegiance. Daenerys claims Dorne through Rhaegar's marriage to Elia. Dorne is effectively leaderless, Varys lays the groundwork for alliance, and the Sand Snakes refuse to honor the claim of "any man" which is a convenient foreshadowing for Daenerys.
This leaves Westeros divided as follows: Northern Alliance under Sansa and John; Daenerys poised for conquest in the South; the Lannisters battling the Faith in the middle.
Samwell discovers the Maesters are trying to suppress/eliminate magic from the world. They had almost done so by killing all the dragons last time around. He runs from Oldtown (what he does best) and tells John what the maesters have done/are planning. This reveals the Seven to be a vast conspiracy and maybe reveals the Faith's part in destroying House Targaryen (as revenge for taking away the Faith's powers). .
I think Jamie dies at some point during this or is forced to take the Black and Tyrion inherits the Lannister lands, uniting the South under Daenerys. "The dragon has three riders" means John unites the North, Daenerys unites the South, and Tyrion brings in the rest. Conquest by diplomacy this time (mostly).
John Snow is revealed to be Rhaegar and Lyanna's child: John Targaryen. The great houses of Stark and Targaryen are joined in alliance. Daenarys learns about the Maester conspiracy and takes Kings Landing and Oldtown and destroys/subverts the Faith. The "conquest" of Westeros is completed in time for a final showdown between The Lord of Light and The Others.
Bran Stark is revealed to have been popping in and out of history for a thousand years as "Bran the Builder" and has influenced just enough to delay the Others for long enough for everybody else to unite against them.
Big battle for humanity. Scenes.
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Darth Vader
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The first bit where you say they take Winterfell without a fight?
The trailer for next weeks episode basically shows the start of a massive battle
Hellerad
j'accuse!
It shows the start of one. My words may have been poorly chosen. I think the Umbers turn, the Arryns and Reeds show up, and maybe even a small alliance led by the Manderlys. Maybe I've got it wrong, but I think it highly likely that Ramsay gets gutted by an Umber and the Boltons surrender.
Darth Vader
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Somewhere down the line Jon will burn, Then we find out he's Dragon born
Hellerad
j'accuse!
Ashtonian
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Now 75% wont happen mate.
But I think there is some interesting ones there that may well happen before the end.
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So. It's like Eastenders for fellas this, right?
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Zezti
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The people of Esos will cross the sea to Westeros as immigrants and take over the country with their culture and 10 children per family.
Apparently.
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