Game Of Thrones: Season 8

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ClausThomsen said:
Did Bran warg into Drogon just after the bells chimed - there's the theory that he is under the control of The Night King having being touched by him?

I can't remember but apart from when Drogon took off were there any other close-ups on Daenerys or did we just see the dragon from a distance? It's clutching at straws but I'm hoping for a reveal in the final episode that makes everything fall into place and has us all looking like idiots for missing boatloads of foreshadowing and clues hidden in plain sight.
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Will be shocked if the whitewalkers are brought up again. They're donezo. Sadly.
 
Ihaters said:
She didn't actually go mad though mate, she realised the Jon was going to win the love side of the argument, so she needed to go with the fear side of the argument... I think she probably succeeded.

Your a soldier... Two leaders about to go to battle, which do you go with?
On one hand, Danearis sits on a dragon in front of a burning city she had just massacred with an army of unsullied Dothraki and no remorse for killing a million civilians and their unarmed army...

On the other, Jon, doing his, someone stole my favourite ice cream and now I am going to sulk face.

Who would you tip to win?

She had to make a statement... done.

She has always been about the throne, she was forced into taking it in a way she didn't want to, but told Jon not to say anything to his sisters, if he had done that, she could of ruled without the bloodshed.
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That's the plot they should have wrote.

But they didn't.

Re watch that scene, in fact re watch the entire series to that point and there isn't a single point that they allude to that. She stares at the red keep and then starts killing them. Nowhere near Cerci so that had nothing to do with it. She was aware Cerci didn't like the people so killing them was for nothing.

Sooooo much character development went down the drain in this series!

Dany could have came to westeros in season 4 but stayed because, in her words, she wanted to save the world from monsters. There is even quotes of hers about cersi not caring about the people etc. The minute she snapped there was no context at all. Sure, the way you put it should have been the last two seasons plot to build up to it but the north, John etc had nothing to do with it.

There isn't even any shots of her after that moment , so her emotional state isn't even focused on. She goes mad and that's it, 60 minutes of killing innocent people after she spent 4 seasons SAVING innocent people.

It doesn't make any sense.
 
Kenshin said:
That's the plot they should have wrote.

But they didn't.

Re watch that scene, in fact re watch the entire series to that point and there isn't a single point that they allude to that. She stares at the red keep and then starts killing them. Nowhere near Cerci so that had nothing to do with it. She was aware Cerci didn't like the people so killing them was for nothing.

Sooooo much character development went down the drain in this series!

Dany could have came to westeros in season 4 but stayed because, in her words, she wanted to save the world from monsters. There is even quotes of hers about cersi not caring about the people etc. The minute she snapped there was no context at all. Sure, the way you put it should have been the last two seasons plot to build up to it but the north, John etc had nothing to do with it.

There isn't even any shots of her after that moment , so her emotional state isn't even focused on. She goes mad and that's it, 60 minutes of killing innocent people after she spent 4 seasons SAVING innocent people.

It doesn't make any sense.
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From a psychological point, i'd have thought people who tend to go on killings sprees have some motive for attacking certain groups after their mind has gone.

Still don't see the logic behind burning all those innocents that she has been claiming she has wanted to help through the entire series. All her other Dragon executions have had logic behind them.

Still, that strange turn of events didn't bother me as much as the rest of the inconsistencies in this season.
 
McBain said:
Where did all her troops come from?

Didn’t she go there the episode before with like 20 people? Must have missed that re-stocking troops bit.
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That was a small detachment sent ahead to offer terms of surrender not the invading force. Not unusual for a parley.

EFC78 said:
Doesnt seem to matter to some.

When Jorah returned on his horse from the Ep 3 battle where the Dothraki got slaughtered there was a handful of them running back. All of a sudden there is hundreds of them again in the recent one
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That was one tight focus shot to show Jorah was part of the retreat. It's reasonable to assume that there were plenty of other Dothraki out of shot.

What was a bit crap was the Golden Company getting wiped out before they fought - at least show them in action and show how their reputation was gained.
 
EFC78 said:
From a psychological point, i'd have thought people who tend to go on killings sprees have some motive for attacking certain groups after their mind has gone.

Still don't see the logic behind burning all those innocents that she has been claiming she has wanted to help through the entire series. All her other Dragon executions have had logic behind them.

Still, that strange turn of events didn't bother me as much as the rest of the inconsistencies in this season.
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Varys: I'm worried for all of us. They say "every time a Targaryen is born, the Gods flip a coin, and the world holds its' breath."
Jon Snow: We're not much for riddles, where I'm from.
Varys: We both know what she's about to do.

Tyrion Lannister: The people who live there, they're not your enemies. They're innocents, like the ones you liberated in Meereen!
Daenerys Targaryen: In Meereen, the slaves turned on the Masters and liberated the city themselves the moment I arrived.
Tyrion Lannister: They're afraid! Anyone who resists Cersei will see his family butchered! You can't expect them to be heroes. They're hostages.
Daenerys Targaryen: They are. In a tyrant's grip. Whose fault is that? Mine?
Tyrion Lannister: What does it matter whose fault it is?! Thousands of children will die if the city burns!
Daenerys Targaryen: Your sister knows how to use her enemies' weaknesses against them. That's what she thinks our mercy is. Weakness.
Tyrion Lannister: I beg you, my Queen.
Daenerys Targaryen: But she's wrong. Mercy is our strength. Our mercy towards future generations, who will never again be held hostage by a tyrant
 
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Daenerys Targaryen:“I’m here to save the world from tyrants… and I will serve it, no matter the cost.”

Daenerys Targaryen:“Far more people here love you than me. I don’t have love here. I only have fear. Let it be fear.”

The seasons set in Mereen and the other slave cities were criticised for being slow and laborious but it's a clear illustration that everytime Daenerys has tried to liberate peacefully there has been insurgencies and rebellions such as The Sons of Harpy all the time. Even cities she has liberated from slavery have joined her enemies and attacked her again.

And that was in cities were the people apparently adored her as a liberator and rose against their tyrant. What is going to happen in Westeros were she already knows she is not liked, is viewed as a foreigner and there is a natural leader there who has a claim to the Iron Throne and would have no trouble gaining a large following if he decided to rebel.

The pacing is definitely off but her actions aren't as inconsistent as they seem - maybe she views her past actions as errors.
 
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