2022/23 Frank Lampard

[banno]

The third goal was as good if not better. Mcneil gets the ball wide left near halfway but then drives forward and infield, finds the right pass at the right time to Iwobi, who then shows the vision and skill to lay it back on a plate to him.

We are a long way off where we want to get to, but there is talent there to work with. We just need to see it more consistently. You won't create 2 tap ins every week like we did yesterday in the second half. But it was good to see players making those runs into the 6 yard box too. So many times we see the ball fall and none of our players have continued their run.

McNeil goal was very good due to team work. The movement of Maupay and Iwobi opened the defence up. I have always been concerned with our movement being lacking but that 3rd goal just shows what can happen with good movement. Maupay took Anderson out of the equation and it opened up for McNeil

 

[JP5]

If you can’t see that we are building something solid then you don’t really understand footy. He’s overhauled defence and midfield. They’ll get to the forward line. A couple of decent forwards from here would transform us.

We’ll be a solid mid table side til then with good days and bad days.

 

[MikeH72]

Alexa, play Fix You for the Benitez 8.



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[MikeH72]

The third goal was as good if not better. Mcneil gets the ball wide left near halfway but then drives forward and infield, finds the right pass at the right time to Iwobi, who then shows the vision and skill to lay it back on a plate to him.

We are a long way off where we want to get to, but there is talent there to work with. We just need to see it more consistently. You won't create 2 tap ins every week like we did yesterday in the second half. But it was good to see players making those runs into the 6 yard box too. So many times we see the ball fall and none of our players have continued their run.

Iwobi’s assist was sensational. Just can’t get over seeing us score a goal from our own goal kick where the ball didn’t leave the ground or touch a Palace player from the start to the end of the move.

 

[Neiler]

Lampard is actually quite ruthless isnt he. Its something i dont see talked about much.

Few examples, Delph, Dele and Allan in the summer. Gomes punted etc.

Keane and Doucoure, pretty much have been called up fleetingly, when previously we were hoping they would just be fit.

Even though we all know he has huge time for Seamus, he made a big call on young Nathan.

Hes not afraid to make hard calls and backs his own judgement.

 

[allen]

That second goal yesterday was a City goal, can’t believe we are capable of that. Time for the handbrake to come off I think.

I think the team needs to take the crowd with them.

I agree totally about that second goal - it was clearly the best goal yesterday from a team perspective.

Short balls from the keeper, breaking the press, moving the ball rapidly upfield.

But you could hear some nervous murmurings at the start of that move, especially when Pickford received the ball back again from Coady.

Old habits die hard - and I think it’ll be hard to shift that nervousness out of Goodison. I remember similar issues in Martinez’s first season, even when things were going well.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Iwobi’s assist was sensational. Just can’t get over seeing us score a goal from our own goal kick where the ball didn’t leave the ground or touch a Palace player from the start to the end of the move.

The second goal is probably the text book example of how to play through a press. It makes me nervous but you need to be brave to create the 1 v 1s up the other end of the pitch. City score goals like that all the time. It also helps when their defence also knows Pickford will try to hit Gray direct at times.

I like that we weren't one dimensional yesterday. We tried our best to play as much as possible but also went long to keep their defence guessing. Good sides can play both ways. Even Pep learned you need to mix it up in England. Ederson had an assist yesterday.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Lampard is actually quite ruthless isnt he. Its something i dont see talked about much.

Few examples, Delph, Dele and Allan in the summer. Gomes punted etc.

Keane and Doucoure, pretty much have been called up fleetingly, when previously we were hoping they would just be fit.

Even though we all know he has huge time for Seamus, he made a big call on young Nathan.

Hes not afraid to make hard calls and backs his own judgement.

I don't know if it's ruthlessness or he could just see (like a lot of us) that most of them were really not very good at the end of the day.

 

[Neiler]

The second goal is probably the text book example of how to play through a press. It makes me nervous but you need to be brave to create the 1 v 1s up the other end of the pitch. City score goals like that all the time. It also helps when their defence also knows Pickford will try to hit Gray direct at times.

I like that we weren't one dimensional yesterday. We tried our best to play as much as possible but also went long to keep their defence guessing. Good sides can play both ways. Even Pep learned you need to mix it up in England. Ederson had an assist yesterday.

Confidence and psychology is such a huge thing as well, mate we completely relaxed after the second goal and looked so much more expansive, calm and in control of the game.

The Iwobi assist, was just PHWOAR.

 

[Bluechris31]

If you can’t see that we are building something solid then you don’t really understand footy. He’s overhauled defence and midfield. They’ll get to the forward line. A couple of decent forwards from here would transform us.

We’ll be a solid mid table side til then with good days and bad days.

Absolutely spot on..

 

[Eggs]

Its a very good point and interesting point on the full backs mate, im a big Patterson and Myko fan, yet full backs with different attributes can add a lot of creatively, competition for places there might not be a bad thing. We are content enough to have "back ups" there and have been for a long time, but its an area were there is scope to add threat, thinking of when Lampard was at Chelsea they had Alonso, but he also went out and signed Chillwell.

We have decisions to make in the summer on Coleman and Vinagre.

….can’t see us keeping Vinagra, he’s not getting any game time & we have Samuels-Smith coming through as well as Nkounkou at Cardiff.

 

[ToffeeTim]

….can’t see us keeping Vinagra, he’s not seeing any game time & we have Samuels-Smith coming through.

He's only an injury or suspension away from a starting position though. You need 2 players in.every position if you want a successful season.

 

[Eggs]

He's only an injury or suspension away from a starting position though. You need 2 players in.every position if you want a successful season.

….we have Mykolenko & Vinagra for this season. I expect Vinagra will go back at the end of his loan and we possibly might be in a position next season to promote a youngster.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Good result that although Viera handed us the 3 points on a plate by playing a suicidal 5 up top formation leaving that big galoot with no legs as the only holding/defensive midfielder which we exploited all afternoon.

But got to give credit to Lampard and the players for not letting their heeds drop after the last 3 defeats a fantastic performance from start to finish.

I said yesterday he needed 4 points from Palace + Fulham for me to keep faith in him and we're over half way there. Nows the time to use yesterday to push forward with confidence - no point putting in a performance like that to then go get whacked by Mr Silva one week later which has been the story of Everton for the past few years.

Time for everyone at the club from the board down to the fanbase drop the plucky knife to a gun fight mentality and start having a collective ambishun to be a top club again.

 

[Neiler]

I don't know if it's ruthlessness or he could just see (like a lot of us) that most of them were really not very good at the end of the day.

I dont know mate, its a lot of moving parts making up a whole of a dynamic, i think a lot of it is quite brave and ruthless.

I mean, Gomes, Dele are in our higher earner bracket, can imagine going to your boss and saying - you know these lads we drop 100k a week on - im going to bin them and want you to give me the guts 50 mill for two 21 years olds in Onana and Garner. Same at centre half with Coady and JT VS Mina (high earner) & Keane. Think it could have been very easy to maybe just stick with Allan or get another year out of Delph (on the back of the momentum at the end of the season) - i imagine it was also a hard sell, arguing shedding them for Idrissa.

Seamus, Keane, Doucoure are big profile players and good servants, also on big contracts, its a big call adding them to the best of the rest list, were they seem currently.

Its also the combination of all the above to the whole, every single decision in isolation in a way is logical like you say but many together absolutely change the whole dynamic, identity and maybe culture. Its wrong footing the whole squad, when previous sure fire players in the team are now maybes, it conveys there is a standard and all needs to be earned and continuously proven, a competitive healthy tension.

Think there is definitely a ruthless streak in Lampard.