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[TyphooToffee]

In view of subsequent posts, I realise this post of mine was a cheap shot and I apologise for it.

It's probably Lurcio (pronounced Lurkio) anyway.

For anyone who doesn't know of it, here's a link to (Series one, episode one) to Up Pompeii! If you don't want to watch all of it, scroll forward to 12 minutes in to see what my original post was referring to.

 

[tim cahill]

An alternative to Bill Kenwright is someone else.
A viable buyer won't appear in the media because of confidentiality clauses.
However... it is well known that Kenwright wants £200m for the club, a figure no-one is willing to match. He needs to lower the price. He won't because he loves being the chairman too much, even though he's failing to supply the manager with the tools to do his job properly.

Don't expect Kenwright Out chants at the match next Sunday. It's not really the 'acid test'.

Another plane will be flown over the ground next Sunday. Hopefully the banner will make it clear what the issues are and that it's about 16 years of failure, not one quiet summer of transfers.

He needs to lower the price? Does he? Why?
I'd be surprised if it's only worth £200m with the new tv deal. But I certainly wouldn't want the club sold for less than it's value. It would leave us wide open to someone who might buy us to sell off all of our best players and make a quick £100m as they destroy the club.

 

[Big Neville Southall]

All this concern over whether it's kopite or kopite behaviour is ridiculous. Determining our own behaviour by the actions of another team's fans is pathetic.

 

[Rook]

An alternative to Bill Kenwright is someone else.
A viable buyer won't appear in the media because of confidentiality clauses.
However... it is well known that Kenwright wants £200m for the club, a figure no-one is willing to match. He needs to lower the price. He won't because he loves being the chairman too much, even though he's failing to supply the manager with the tools to do his job properly.

Don't expect Kenwright Out chants at the match next Sunday. It's not really the 'acid test'.

Another plane will be flown over the ground next Sunday. Hopefully the banner will make it clear what the issues are and that it's about 16 years of failure, not one quiet summer of transfers.

The only kind of owner that would significantly improve us is one who doesn't mind losing up to a 1/2 billion or more pounds and now that the price of oil is bunk and Russia is in the toliet these people don't grow on trees. More likely is ta

 

[BoysInBlue]

The only kind of owner that would significantly improve us is one who doesn't mind losing up to a 1/2 billion or more pounds and now that the price of oil is bunk and Russia is in the toliet these people don't grow on trees. More likely is ta

Don't agree. An owner like Swansea's.... A board like Swansea's... Forward thinking and open, lots of people contributing ideas and plans to take the club forward....

Why is the EFC board a closed shop of 3 people, 1 of whom is absentee? No wonder we never make any progress. Swansea have 8 people on their board. In fact EFC have traditionally had 5 or more directors in the past. It's only the Kenwright era where the control freak who won't let anyone else play with his toy has the modern phenomenon of 2 people, him & Jon 'Des Lynam' Woods making the decisions.

We don't need a billionaire and the protestors are not calling for one. What they're calling for is a plan to move us forward and that's simply not happening. We're treading quicksand, the owners shrug their shoulders and say this is how it must always be, and certain people are just going along with it. It's about time it stopped.

 

[Rook]

An alternative to Bill Kenwright is someone else.
A viable buyer won't appear in the media because of confidentiality clauses.
However... it is well known that Kenwright wants £200m for the club, a figure no-one is willing to match. He needs to lower the price. He won't because he loves being the chairman too much, even though he's failing to supply the manager with the tools to do his job properly.

Don't expect Kenwright Out chants at the match next Sunday. It's not really the 'acid test'.

Another plane will be flown over the ground next Sunday. Hopefully the banner will make it clear what the issues are and that it's about 16 years of failure, not one quiet summer of transfers.

The only kind of owner that would significantly improve us is one who doesn't mind losing up to a billion or more pounds (plus have no problem paying for a new stadium) and now that the price of oil is bunk and Russia is in the toliet these people don't grow on trees. For every Man City owner there are ten to twenty nincompoops like the Venky's and Mike Ashley. American billionaires are no longer interested in the prem becasue they can buy an American pro sports team for less of an investment, which is pretty much a licence to print money not to mention of hundreds of millions of govt pork that cities hand to them. A much more likely situtation is that the "upgrade" that we'd get is a Randy Lerner type who comes in there, spends heavily for a season or 2, loses say a 100M or so, realizes that 100M in investments is in no way sufficient or enough to get a C-league spot and immediately closes down the shop. Then puts the side for sale, only to kind of take the side off the market after realizing that you could profit nicely not spending anything and finishing 16th every year.

Kenwright isn't great money wise but he does stay out of footie affairs and to my knowledge has never forced either Moyes or Martinez to sell a player they didn't want to. When bigger clubs come calling for our players we've held on to them while other somewhat richer sides (Spurs, Liverpool) couldn't hold onto theirs. We spent heavily last year and had on paper our deepest squad in years but flirted with relegation for a while and finished mid-table. So obviously some of the bills will have to paid this year. Not to mention that the manager came into this season with a few question marks and will have to prove himself again.

 

[Rook]

Don't agree. An owner like Swansea's.... A board like Swansea's... Forward thinking and open, lots of people contributing ideas and plans to take the club forward....

Why is the EFC board a closed shop of 3 people, 1 of whom is absentee? No wonder we never make any progress. Swansea have 8 people on their board. In fact EFC have traditionally had 5 or more directors in the past. It's only the Kenwright era where the control freak who won't let anyone else play with his toy has the modern phenomenon of 2 people, him & Jon 'Des Lynam' Woods making the decisions.

We don't need a billionaire and the protestors are not calling for one. What they're calling for is a plan to move us forward and that's simply not happening. We're treading quicksand, the owners shrug their shoulders and say this is how it must always be, and certain people are just going along with it. It's about time it stopped.

Again we had a deep squad last year, on paper we could have definitely competed for top 4 and/or made a deep run into Europe. We did neither. That wasn't the boards fault. Swans just happily gave up their best player in the middle of January without a fight last year. You want to be like them?

 

[Alec clelands forehead]

Second game in, a fantastic away performance and you're crying about watching mediocrity. I despair

We've been watching mediocrity since Xmas

 

[MrGrumpy]

Which ever way you feel about the banner, it's done 1 good thing and that's people are talking about Everton again. Where we've been ignored for months by TS and SS

Well except for their guantee that Stones is going to Chelsea for 50p

 

[joey_macmo]

The only kind of owner that would significantly improve us is one who doesn't mind losing up to a billion or more pounds (plus have no problem paying for a new stadium) and now that the price of oil is bunk and Russia is in the toliet these people don't grow on trees. For every Man City owner there are ten to twenty nincompoops like the Venky's and Mike Ashley. American billionaires are no longer interested in the prem becasue they can buy an American pro sports team for less of an investment, which is pretty much a licence to print money not to mention of hundreds of millions of govt pork that cities hand to them. A much more likely situtation is that the "upgrade" that we'd get is a Randy Lerner type who comes in there, spends heavily for a season or 2, loses say a 100M or so, realizes that 100M in investments is in no way sufficient or enough to get a C-league spot and immediately closes down the shop. Then puts the side for sale, only to kind of take the side off the market after realizing that you could profit nicely not spending anything and finishing 16th every year.

Kenwright isn't great money wise but he does stay out of footie affairs and to my knowledge has never forced either Moyes or Martinez to sell a player they didn't want to. When bigger clubs come calling for our players we've held on to them while other somewhat richer sides (Spurs, Liverpool) couldn't hold onto theirs. We spent heavily last year and had on paper our deepest squad in years but flirted with relegation for a while and finished mid-table. So obviously some of the bills will have to paid this year. Not to mention that the manager came into this season with a few question marks and will have to prove himself again.

£200m would improve us significantly by building a stadium that we own, asking someone to invest £1bn is way way over the top

Just the once we've held onto our bigger players, Fellaini, Lescott, Rooney, Gravesen & Arteta all went. Liverpoool held onto their best player for a generation for one more season at his peak and they nearly won the league because of it. Spurs did the same and finished 4th twice. We didnt even get to see our best player in a long time reach his 19th bday in an Everton shirt.

The bills were paid the year before with what id imagine was the largest amount in transfer fees we've received in one season. The cash was their in the bank to pay for Lukaku due to the tv deal.

 

[COYBL25]

Colin Murray - Talksport 10am - 1pm will be discussing Kenwrights tenure and the banner. No time slot announced yet, but will be taking calls. Hopefully they won't be screened with a Kenwright bias.

 

[Alec clelands forehead]

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No offence, but are you having a laugh? How can you possibly not know that I'm referring to Robert Earl, owner of 23.27% of Everton Football Club, the 2nd largest shareholder in the club, and someone who has not attended an Everton match at Goodison for 8 years and counting.

http://www.evertonfc.com/content/club/shareholders-association/list-of-shareholders

The very fact that you weren't aware of this simply increases the need for promotional stunt like planes and banners, to shine a spotlight on the issues and get press attention on the problems facing our club. Please educate yourself of the facts.

Can't see earl letting go of his cash cow easily he must think we're all daft. We should be flying planes with banners in America directed at him to do one

 

[Alec clelands forehead]

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£200m would improve us significantly by building a stadium that we own, asking someone to invest £1bn is way way over the top

Just the once we've held onto our bigger players, Fellaini, Lescott, Rooney, Gravesen & Arteta all went. Liverpoool held onto their best player for a generation for one more season at his peak and they nearly won the league because of it. Spurs did the same and finished 4th twice. We didnt even get to see our best player in a long time reach his 19th bday in an Everton shirt.

The bills were paid the year before with what id imagine was the largest amount in transfer fees we've received in one season. The cash was their in the bank to pay for Lukaku due to the tv deal.

Fellainis money paid for lukaku

 

[COYBL25]

On Talksport now

 

[Rook]

£200m would improve us significantly by building a stadium that we own, asking someone to invest £1bn is way way over the top

Just the once we've held onto our bigger players, Fellaini, Lescott, Rooney, Gravesen & Arteta all went. Liverpoool held onto their best player for a generation for one more season at his peak and they nearly won the league because of it. Spurs did the same and finished 4th twice. We didnt even get to see our best player in a long time reach his 19th bday in an Everton shirt.

The bills were paid the year before with what id imagine was the largest amount in transfer fees we've received in one season. The cash was their in the bank to pay for Lukaku due to the tv deal.

Lescott and Rooney left yea. But we got Lescott's best years plus he was kind of an overrated CB IMO (but admittedly an extremely underrated LB and we had Baines). Rooney was a terror off the pitch then, if he came up though Man U's academy at the time he probably would have forced a move to Chelsea or something. Arteta-Fellani didn't mesh as Fellani dominated the ball while Arteta ran hopelessly around looking for something to do so one of them had to go. Arteta also spent his prime here all while being known as the best player outside the Sky 4. I think Bob wanted to sell Fellani and get McCarthy as it turned out as Fellani didn't really fit into Bob's system well (watch the few matches he played for us that season Fell is a terrible distrubitor in the attacking end).