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[Matt Damon]

I watched the game he was head and shoulders above the rest of the players,you watch it he was driving us on today

Driving us on? We lost 2-1.

He was awful at times in the game. AWFUL.

Watch where he was when they scored.


And saying he was better than Coleman or Distin is a joke really. Really is.

 

[daz4matty]

Driving us on? We lost 2-1.

He was awful at times in the game. AWFUL.

Watch where he was when they scored.


And saying he was better than Coleman or Distin is a joke really. Really is.[/QUOT
He was our best player today he plays like 2 men in midfield,yeah he made mistakes but he will be missed when he is gone

 

[Summerskin]

He drives us on from midfield and you will miss him when he goes

I certainly will miss him, I didn't get his name on the back of my shirt for any old reason.

It's just that when our front men are struggling to score the final ball from somebody like him should be a damnsight better than it is.

 

[daz4matty]

I certainly will miss him, I didn't get his name on the back of my shirt for any old reason.

It's just that when our front men are struggling to score the final ball from somebody like him should be a damnsight better than it is.

To be fair mate there is not a lot of movement in front of him and at times 1st halh saha was on the left wing.
He is not perfect but i believe our best player

 

[Great Dane]

The rollercoaster ride of being an Evertonian, eh?



What I've learned from today:




The Good:

• Beckford's looking pretty sharp. That was an excellent swivel shot, and the kind of ambition we've not seen enough of from our front men recently.
• Rodder's is back! Sure, he had a poor game, but he's back, and that's good.
• Cahill's got his 6th in 12 PL appearances, which may not mean much when we've just lost, but at least we've got one player who can find the net. Heaven help us if he gets injured.

The Bad:

• Wrong tactics; no width, using Saha as an ineffective target man and not being fired up until the last 10 minutes.
• Terrible refereeing (they should have had a red, instead we get a goal disallowed, no clear oppurtunity to score, and have to carry on playing 11 men)
• Howard's worrying me now. He should not have been beaten for the first.
• Our mentality is embarrassing. We act like we're a league 2 team, and sit off the big teams until we go a goal or two down and are forced to play. Sadly, unlike at home when we played United the last two times, and Chelsea before, this time we left too much to do.

The Ugly:

• Deja vu: Not clinical, individual errors and no steel. Even a draw would have seen us go 9th, but instead we're sitting in 13th, below the RS we mock so frequently. That's an embarrassment, imo, to be below the RS after the kind of results and performances they've shown.

Positives:
Piennar: Really fighting to put himself in the shopping window. Protected the ball, good runs and really tried to pull the strings from midfield.
Cahill: He can play in deeper midfield, he does not rest on the ball, but passes it quickly and has urgency in his game.
Coleman: REally has given us another string to play on. We are less predictable now that we have a right midfield.
Baines: Must run on Duracell batteries. Never stops running and is usually behind our best play.
Jags and Distin: Seems to be forming a good understanding and looks solid.
Moyes: Seems more ballsy, and full marks for gambling with both Beckford and Yakubu.

Negatives:
Piennar: It is really bad when your best player is the one who definately leaving in the summer.
Arteta: The maestro is really having a stinker at present. Did he ever the ball forward? Set-piece delivery is getting worse even if it is hard to see how that is possible. We used to be dangerous at corners, now we can't get the ball past the first defender.
Heitinga: Sell him, he is making to many fouls and seems to have lost his ability to pass the ball sensibly.
Saha: Does he realise that he has teammates. Tries to do everything on his own and does not bring others into play

 

[davek]

HAHAHAHA! Joke that is.

Check where he (Pienaar) was when the first went in. No where near where he should have been. Left poor Baines in a right mess several times in the game, in the first 10 minutes.

Distin was by far our best player.

Put down the crack pipe Damon. Pienaar was the only Everton player who looked like they could get in a CL outfit.

[Poor language removed] finisher, like.

 

[Matt Damon]

Put down the crack pipe Damon. Pienaar was the only Everton player who looked like they could get in a CL outfit.

[Poor language removed] finisher, like.

Is that the master of spin's take?

Bollocks to that. He was [Poor language removed] at times. Watch the highlights. When we conceded he'd done a disappearing act.

And check how many times he lost possession too.


Wenger would love to have Coleman in his side. FACT.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Is that the master of spin's take?

Bollocks to that. He was [Poor language removed] at times. Watch the highlights. When we conceded he'd done a disappearing act.

And check how many times he lost possession too.


Wenger would love to have Coleman in his side. FACT.

You are really, really clueless lad.




An yes Pienaar lost possession a few times but he drove us on at times to. He was better than most today.

 

[Neiler]

I thought we looked a lot better with the substitutions to be honest, Rodwell is a terrific footballer and needs a run in the team beside Arteta, im not sure if we need an enforcer or not but if we do so be it with Cahill as the sacrifce no point scoring one every second game if your getting beat 2-1.

There is no spontonaity in our attacking play and hasnt been for two years, Davey summed up best when he said in the press a while ago he would start putting the boot in to the strikers unless they got on the end of the cross. Which sums up our one dimensional attacking play, we have two international strikers who have both porven they get into double figures by scoring a variety of goals yet we seem determined to turn all our strikers into Drogba or crouch and getting them on the end of mindless corss after midless cross its ridiculous. We're intent on playing one up front, leaving our strikers isolated against 4 defenders, which wouldnt be as bad if our approach play wasnt so predictable hit the by line and get a cross in! What about in behind? Throug the centre? or into space? Running the centre half? we need to play on our strikers attributes. Eqaully in our approach play their is know vairety, pace or spontanity making us utterly predictable to even the most hapless defensives. Worse still is the fact that the short interplay and constant laying of, give the opposition the oppurtnity to get into position and get a decent shape - this has been seen aginst really poor defences which Arsenal, Blackburn and Bolton are we made them all look like world class defenders which they are far from..

Its a massive pity becauise this squad has massive quality, which is why so many people cant put their fingers on what actually wrong, the performences this season have been on the whole excellent individually and as a team with a few likes and dislikes, problem is we are playing draughts and everyone else is playing chess when it comes to offensive play in approach, varity, pace, tacticaly, and selection wise. Its a pity as i say because this is one of thehighest quality squads in the league (Howard apart like)*

 

[daz4matty]

Is that the master of spin's take?

Bollocks to that. He was [Poor language removed] at times. Watch the highlights. When we conceded he'd done a disappearing act.

And check how many times he lost possession too.


Wenger would love to have Coleman in his side. FACT.

Your deffo a kopite you talk so much garbage.
I think you are a wind up merchant i cant take you serious,your wasting my time with your drivel.
At least your lot lost to stoke

 

[davek]

I thought we looked a lot better with the substitutions to be honest, Rodwell is a terrific footballer and needs a run in the team beside Arteta, im not sure if we need an enforcer or not but if we do so be it with Cahill as the sacrifce no point scoring one every second game if your getting beat 2-1.

There is no spontonaity in our attacking play and hasnt been for two years, Davey summed up best when he said in the press a while ago he would start putting the boot in to the strikers unless they got on the end of the cross. Which sums up our one dimensional attacking play, we have two international strikers who have both porven they get into double figures by scoring a variety of goals yet we seem determined to turn all our strikers into Drogba or crouch and getting them on the end of mindless corss after midless cross its ridiculous. We're intent on playing one up front, leaving our strikers isolated against 4 defenders, which wouldnt be as bad if our approach play wasnt so predictable hit the by line and get a cross in! What about in behind? Throug the centre? or into space? Running the centre half? we need to play on our strikers attributes. Eqaully in our approach play their is know vairety, pace or spontanity making us utterly predictable to even the most hapless defensives. Worse still is the fact that the short interplay and constant laying of, give the opposition the oppurtnity to get into position and get a decent shape - this has been seen aginst really poor defences which Arsenal, Blackburn and Bolton are we made them all look like world class defenders which they are far from..

Its a massive pity becauise this squad has massive quality, which is why so many people cant put their fingers on what actually wrong, the performences this season have been on the whole excellent individually and as a team with a few likes and dislikes, problem is we are playing draughts and everyone else is playing chess when it comes to offensive play in approach, varity, pace, tacticaly, and selection wise. Its a pity as i say because this is one of thehighest quality squads in the league (Howard apart like)*

TBH, I think our strikers have always had to do a hell of a lot under Moyes. They work their bollocks off as the first line of defence, have pretty much rubbish quality unless the full backs are bombing on behind the opposition defence and pulling it back for them. If you were a forward of any decent quality you'd give Everton a wide berth. It's a thankless task...as beckford is beginning to find out.

 

[Neiler]

TBH, I think our strikers have always had to do a hell of a lot under Moyes. They work their bollocks off as the first line of defence, have pretty much rubbish quality unless the full backs are bombing on behind the opposition defence and pulling it back for them. If you were a forward of any decent quality you'd give Everton a wide berth. It's a thankless task...as beckford is beginning to find out.

Id agree with that mate, good point on our attractiveness to potential strikers as well, forbodeing when its likely we will be trying to attract a striker at some point, either tried and truted journey man, or a young up and coming me thinks.

I think whipping in crosses is part of the probles, its ok if you mix it up, but i cant remeber the last ime we played a ball centrally for a striker to run on to, from what i see our strikers have stoped trying to get a jump on the centre half or try and find space as they know it will just be whipped into the box to get your head on, or you may be lucky and get a scrap of a second ball. Theyve been condidioned into this mindset and this buisness of nedsin they entire midfeld camped out on the outskirts of opposition box probing is just ridiculous when you have five men around your one striker. "Quick give to Bainsey to launch one in". Say what you like about Andy Johnson he gave us that option of catching teams on the back foot.

 

[Summerskin]

Can't believe somebody just said:

"If we were to make a sacrifice it should be Cahill, there's no point in scoring when you're losing".

 

[Nordecke]

I think we are being to hard on Howard.. He has had some bad displays this year.. but the first goal was blasted in by a guy who don't normally go for goal.. Most keepers would have expected a cross from Sagna.

 

[RFUS]

Can't believe somebody just said:

"If we were to make a sacrifice it should be Cahill, there's no point in scoring when you're losing".

Not sure who said that, but damn that's stupid. His other goals have won points.

And someone said to me that before Yak's winner at Stoke, none of his PL goals for us had ever won us a game. But were people asking to drop him when he bagged 21?