no thanks, he's a simple minded cleft
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Frang
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he gets some very good guests on, some people almost worth enduring him for but I can get their information elsewhere. he is also very much in awe of the new age alt right crowd and needs to challenge the opinion of these people far more when there will be a million bro science bells listening in
I quite like that he doesn't have the facility to challenge his guests sometimes. It's quite refreshing to hear a viewpoint that is not constantly heckled and turns into a slanging match. It's an interview rather than a debate and he allows the interviewee to answer the question and actually does play devil's advocate a bit more than he is given credit for.
Joe Rogan is a podcast for listening to the views of the guest rather than a debate and I think it's all the better for it.
Frang
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Absolutely..
when he is creeping up to the likes of gavin mcinnes i find it nauseating. He did push back against rubin somewhat, but rubin is so unbelievably dumb giving credit for pushing back against that idiot would be like giving someone credit for adding 2 + 2 up correctly. He's gained a massive following and sometimes comes across okay, but ultimately I just think the guy is a bit too simple. There is a difference in allowing the subject to speak for itself without judgement, a bit like louis therox does so brilliantly, and sitting there sycophantly reinforcing unchallenged nonsense. It's also pretty irresponsible given the viewership
Frang
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Therouxs technique of getting people to feel comfortable around him by playing dumb is masterful..
Been re-visiting his old stuff lately, he's a master at the documentary format
Frang
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How he's never been battered by some of the pyscos he ends up documenting is unreal.
He always has a way of getting them onside whilst to his audience he is blatantly patronising them and taking the p1ss!
I wouldn't call it patronizing, as I don't think he ever really lets judgement get in the way, he has that knack as you say for getting them onside and allowing people to just expose themselves
Frang
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Yes patronising might of been the wrong term. He defo has the knack of getting people comfortable and very open with him..
Love his stuff.
Just realised that this is you in the brexit thread
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JRE
Rooster teeth podcast
Not technically a podcast but the old Ricky Gervais xfm shows are hilarious
Something to wrestle with Bruce prichard.
Rooster teeth podcast
Not technically a podcast but the old Ricky Gervais xfm shows are hilarious
Something to wrestle with Bruce prichard.
I've not listened to any Gavin McInnes interviews so I'll have to take your word for it there but I have listened to his interviews with Milo Yiannopoulos and Jordan Peterson. I'm not a fan of either but in amongst their interviews they do make some points that are held by many and do present valid questions about established values. In interviews with others the interviewer often goes straight on the attack and fails to present a valid counter argument. This kind of outright dismissal and refusal to debate just breeds alienation and resentment - Hello Trump, Hello Brexit.
When it comes to debating the "alt-right" there is a reliance on tropes, unrelated facts and unfocused screaming outright indignation as a substitute for factually based counter argument - you can see any number on YouTube and the like, especially college tours where they're arguing against people whose values are solely determined by being seen to hold the correct opinion in amongst the echo chamber of Twitter.
It's ultimately very unsatisfying and offers nothing to the debate. I'm not going to explain why you're wrong, I'm just going to scream Fascist and point my finger.
I'm a big fan of Louis Theroux but all too often his interviewees are so extreme that the work is already done. He's interviewing extremist cartoon characters when it comes to the likes of religious or racial extremists and often picks out a a very easy target that is way outside of the mainstream. It's funny to watch but as a social commentary his documentaries on things like addiction or low level habitual crime and socio-economics are vastly superior.
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Fair enough, and I agree with the principle of what you are saying, I just don't equate that ethos to Rogan's interviews or at least not in enough volume. I do mainly see him as a poor stand up and coupled with his image as a bro science spouting ufc obsessed liberterian of sorts, it's hard for me to engage with him. That's probably me being a bit narrow minded but if your going to listen to someone for hours, it's hard work if you don't engage a bit with their personality.
Ultimately as far as my own personal tastes go in terms of taking the time to listen to someones show, Rogan isn't really creative enough to do irreverent comedy that others do far better, and I don't trust him to inform me of anything worthwhile either.
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