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Pabbers · December 24, 2019

Ignore function is the best

wainy · December 24, 2019

davek said:
But the fact that what you say about Kenwright is all true, and yet I'm also right that him remaining in control and handing over the extra tv cash to a manager he'd recruited would have given us a better base than the one we now stand on is uttlerly damning for Moshiri.

Can’t agree sorry, Dave. The reason being is the manager would most likely have been someone like Darren Moore, Eddie Howe or some other championship manager that we could just about afford. I don’t believe this squad is a lost cause, we have some decent players in there to build around and hopefully the new manager will do this. I don’t believe it’s all just TV cash, I mean I haven’t done the maths, but can’t recall many teams in Europe splashing the cash like we have over the last 3 years.

Edit: I’m not a moshiri fan boy either, just pointing out that blue bill is an absolute disgrace.

Daveysgingerlovechild · December 24, 2019

Does that mean he wasnt unhappy with the performance of Koeman and Silva?

"The fans are mutinous, best bin this one. Damn".

Which is also worrying.

davek · December 24, 2019

wainy said:
Can’t agree sorry, Dave. The reason being is the manager would most likely have been someone like Darren Moore, Eddie Howe or some other championship manager that we could just about afford. I don’t believe this squad is a lost cause, we have some decent players in there to build around and hopefully the new manager will do this. I don’t believe it’s all just TV cash, I mean I haven’t done the maths, but can’t recall many teams in Europe splashing the cash like we have over the last 3 years.

Both the managers he chose had us top 5. The evidence is overwhelming.

little elfin · December 24, 2019

We will see the moment of truth after lost to Burnley

wainy · December 24, 2019

davek said:
Both the managers he chose had us top 5. The evidence is overwhelming.

You’re quite right on that count.
They both also had us at the wrong end of the table. See Moyes finishing 17th and the last two years of Martinez were Everton played some of the worst football I’ve ever seen as an Evertonian. Both flash in the pan seasons and, in my opinion, no grounds at all to suggest we’d be better off without Moshiri.

davek · December 24, 2019

wainy said:
You’re quite right on that count.
They both also had us at the wrong end of the table. See Moyes finishing 17th and the last two years of Martinez were Everton played some of the worst football I’ve ever seen as an Evertonian. Both flash in the pan seasons and, in my opinion, no grounds at all to suggest we’d be better off without Moshiri.

In Europe multiple times under Kenwright on a budget of buttons. It makes perfect sense that we'd have continued that trend within four seasons.

I in no way advocate Kenwright, btw. But that his tenure was way better than Moshiri's is the ultimate condemnation of his time here. It's been appalling.

Sy- · December 24, 2019

Daveysgingerlovechild said:
Does that mean he wasnt unhappy with the performance of Koeman and Silva?

"The fans are mutinous, best bin this one. Damn".

Which is also worrying.

He's just not a football person IMO... also isn't this his first proper gig?

I mean, I wouldn't expect him to notice a manager beligerantly chosing players and formations that simply don't work if we scrape the odd result. As such the "enough is enough" from the fans will keep coming out of the blue for him.

wainy · December 24, 2019

davek said:
In Europe multiple times under Kenwright on a budget of buttons. It makes perfect sense that we'd have continued that trend within four seasons.

I in no way advocate Kenwright, btw. But that his tenure was way better than Moshiri's is the ultimate condemnation of his time here. It's been appalling.

He’s only been here 3 years mate, give it time. I’d be interested to compare BK first 3 years to FM.

Cant say I agree with the trend continuing, look at the team we had duringMartinez reign. We had Howard, Distin, Alcaraz, Baines, Osman, Mirallas, Kone and in sure numerous other crabs that needed to be moved on. We just haven’t had (I think we both agree on this) a coherent recruitment strategy in the time since.

witchdoc187 · December 24, 2019

Nymzee said:
Has our owner just dug out our own fans????????

He's got a point though I think

john jako · December 24, 2019

Pabbers said:
Ignore function is the best

Who said that?

witchdoc187 · December 24, 2019

little elfin said:
We will see the moment of truth after lost to Burnley

It's after two home losses we will disown him so he'll be ok for a couple of weeks

Rooney_Tunes · December 24, 2019

davek said:
In Europe multiple times under Kenwright on a budget of buttons. It makes perfect sense that we'd have continued that trend within four seasons.

I in no way advocate Kenwright, btw. But that his tenure was way better than Moshiri's is the ultimate condemnation of his time here. It's been appalling.

Don't agree Dave. My opinion is he came here and he was all excited; PL team, Koeman as manager, no DOF, thought we would win the league within two seasons. The next couple of years were sobering, him coming to the realisation that it was not as easy as he thought it would be.

So he tears up his first blueprint, and decides to start over. Brings in Marcel, starts listening to him.

Remember, it was a few of the posters on here (wrong forum maybe), and the Media saying Marcel wanted to keep Marco, and he wanted Moyes.

The man worked with the best, he wants the best for this club. So Moshiri chats, Ancelotti becomes available, and this time he listens to his Director of Football, and not Bill.

They make the offer, he accepts, they tell him he will have the money to spend.

This is just an opinion, and I'm sure who will shoot most of this down, but be gentle please. :cool:

Daveysgingerlovechild · December 24, 2019

Sy- said:
He's just not a football person IMO... also isn't this his first proper gig?

I mean, I wouldn't expect him to notice a manager beligerantly chosing players and formations that simply don't work if we scrape the odd result. As such the "enough is enough" from the fans will keep coming out of the blue for him.

Well, after 4 managers perhaps, like most reasonably intelligent human beings you might spot a pattern? "Ohhhhh, this is happening again". What is being a football person? None of us are born with an innate understanding of football, we all learn. Perhaps the boss should too?

Plus, what are the "football people" around him doing? "It's all fine Farhad, expected loss. No worries".

Sorry Mate, dont agree at all.

davek · December 24, 2019

Rooney_Tunes said:
Don't agree Dave. My opinion is he came here and he was all excited; PL team, Koeman as manager, no DOF, thought we would win the league within two seasons. The next couple of years were sobering, him coming to the realisation that it was not as easy as he thought it would be.

So he tears up his first blueprint, and decides to start over. Brings in Marcel, starts listening to him.

Remember, it was a few of the posters on here (wrong forum maybe), and the Media saying Marcel wanted to keep Marco, and he wanted Moyes.

The man worked with the best, he wants the best for this club. So Moshiri chats, Ancelotti becomes available, and this time he listens to his Director of Football, and not Bill.

They make the offer, he accepts, they tell him he will have the money to spend.

This is just an opinion, and I'm sure who will shoot most of this down, but be gentle please.

^^^ All of which underlines the point that he's a meddler and a nuisance for a football club. We'll never have stability with him backseat driving. Two DoF he's had in and over-ruled and discounted both of them. WTF is the point employing these people?

He's a loose cannon.

I said a while back that he's our Jesus Gil, and I was bang on right about that.