Everton Youth Teams Thread

[Eggs]

I'll always remember Shankly giving Dennis Law his debut when Dennis was still 16 years old. " If hes good enough then hes old enough". And in those days there was not even referees and the ball had to weigh 10 lbs.

…..some team he had at Huddersfield, not forgetting Ray Wilson.

 

[Eggs]

Looks a fabulous player at that level and massive potential to make it at premier league level under the right attacking coach.
He won’t fit into a ‘Moyes system’, whatever that is.

….i just think that’s nonsense.

 

[mahermi1]

….i just think that’s nonsense.

You've saw more of him than me Eggs, what type of striker is he, fast / skillfull/ or Fox in the box type, I know he tends to score different types of goals and gets his fair share.

 

[mightymoyes]

Right, so where does he play in our current system

Well he could be on the bench at least as an option to come on for the likes of mcneil when he inevitably stinks the gaff out once again

 

[TrixyStevens]

….i just think that’s nonsense.

You’re entitled to an opinion as am I.
I think the lad needs a progressive attacking coach, Moyes would only stifle his talent.

 

[DayL08]

Think people need to pump the brakes a bit, he's a fantastic goalscoring talent but he's tiny and would get flattened in the prem right now.

The club know that and are keeping hold of him to have full control over his physical development, probably doesn't even get a loan out until next season let alone start playing in the 1st team squad

Great to have an other young talent to keep an eye on though!

Genuine question. Is he any smaller than Owen when he come through (not saying he’s anywhere near that level). The centre halves these days are probably less physical and of a poorer quantity than back then

 

[Nymzee]

Well he could be on the bench at least as an option to come on for the likes of mcneil when he inevitably stinks the gaff out once again

So right mid? Awful position for him

 

[blueboy72]

In the cup v Sunderland I said the last 10 mins he should have come on and dropped Asnou to left back and just had a proper go at them. But Moyes thought bringing a CB on and play him left back was a better idea. And is it any wonder our cup record under him is horrendous

 

[Eggs]

You've saw more of him than me Eggs, what type of striker is he, fast / skillfull/ or Fox in the box type, I know he tends to score different types of goals and gets his fair share.

….he’s all of those, Matey. Difficult to categorise him although he always reminds me of a Robbie Keane type. He’s physically small be he doesn’t lack for attitude, playing League of Ireland at just 15.

It’s just good to see a youngster dependent on quality rather that being bigger and stronger than everybody else. I’m sure the club know they have a good one.

 

[mightymoyes]

So right mid? Awful position for him

yes when we're chasing a goal as we often are, having that extra keeper or empty spot on the bench is far better

 

[blueloon]

Part of the problem is people are not watching him play at u18/u21s , they’re just seeing his goals and understandably, rightly, getting excited without knowing much about his weaknesses and style of play.

I think we can all agree he’s not a striker, let’s end that. Tate has him playing 11 in a 4-2-3-1 , and it’s working very well for him. He’s no Grealish , doesn’t go outside his man, doesn't cross high to our 9 , he drives inside the box takes on defenders and either passes low across the box or shoots. He’s expected to track back and defend, and Tate has them pressing much like the first team with the 9 ( Sherif) and 10 ( Olayiwola) the furthest forward doing high press, 11 and 7 further back .

He’s drifts from 11 into the inside right position at the right time, as impressive as his goals is his movements to get into these positions at the right time without exposing our left back cos he’s gone awol. He’s a team player and doesn’t go missing , the worst you could say he’ll sometimes shoot when he could have passed. What goal scorer doesn’t. These are all traits that Moyes likes, whether he thinks he’s good enough I don’t know, scoring against u21s/u18s is we all know different from playing in the PL .

I’ve said this often , he could play a role in support of our 9 , in a number of positions depending on our format , particularly if we have a back 3 it opens up options. The logical initial move though if we continue 4231 is to bring him off the bench into the 11 position, he’s proved he can play that role , score goals, threaten defenders and importantly for Moyes track back and do as he’s told.

Oh, and kudos to Paul Tate for finding the right role for him and allowing him to develop.

 

[oglop44]

U18s team away at Stoke

Seve Patrick
Rocco Lambert
Harlow James Mceveley
Lewis Evans
Louis Poland
Melvin Matos
Justin Clarke
Shea Pita
Jonathan Nsangou
Kean Wren
Ceiran Loney

Subs
Goodness Gospel-Eze
Charlie Stewart
Freddie Murdock
Dafi-Tomos Pemberton
Rodney Christopher Adud

Edit: glad to see that Clarke hasn't reinjured himself, just been dropped down to help with his rehab

 

[Nymzee]

yes when we're chasing a goal as we often are, having that extra keeper or empty spot on the bench is far better

None of that detracts from him being completely wasted playing wide right.

 

[mightymoyes]

U18s team away at Stoke

Seve Patrick
Rocco Lambert
Harlow James Mceveley
Lewis Evans
Louis Poland
Melvin Matos
Justin Clarke
Shea Pita
Jonathan Nsangou
Kean Wren
Ceiran Loney

Subs
Goodness Gospel-Eze
Charlie Stewart
Freddie Murdock
Dafi-Tomos Pemberton
Rodney Christopher Adud

Edit: glad to see that Clarke hasn't reinjured himself, just been dropped down to help with his rehab

Are the last 2 names on the bench first appearances?
Can't remember seeing them before

 

[mightymoyes]

None of that detracts from him being completely wasted playing wide right.

Weird you're getting hung up on him playing right midfield, a position mcneil has played about 5 times in his career