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Match Thread Everton V Liverpool. Sun April 19. 2pm
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Now the dust has settled a bit there’s a few things that need to be addressed.
1) how poor were their fans. Hardly heard them mutter a song. It’s like their expectation outweighs the need to actually support their team.
2) No penalty? How can a player be running in the box and be taken out and nothing is given. When there are now red cards for people pulling hair? Don’t get it.
3) Our Var disallowed goal. To me, it looks like the still/frame used on Pickford is him already with his foot through the ball. If it goes back a few frames when he just makes contact are we onside?
4) How is there 11 minutes injury time? I get two stretchers but that too me seemed far too long.
5) How is VVD not booked for doing his usual and taking out a player?
6) How can a ref stop a corner and telling players to stop pushing and shoving but then allow a goal from that same corner where a defenders arm has clearly been dragged from behind. This may not be clear but that’s what VAR is there for. If this was the other way around it would never of been given.
7) I wasn’t over keen on the murderers shouts from a group of lads in the North End, bit scummy.
1) how poor were their fans. Hardly heard them mutter a song. It’s like their expectation outweighs the need to actually support their team.
2) No penalty? How can a player be running in the box and be taken out and nothing is given. When there are now red cards for people pulling hair? Don’t get it.
3) Our Var disallowed goal. To me, it looks like the still/frame used on Pickford is him already with his foot through the ball. If it goes back a few frames when he just makes contact are we onside?
4) How is there 11 minutes injury time? I get two stretchers but that too me seemed far too long.
5) How is VVD not booked for doing his usual and taking out a player?
6) How can a ref stop a corner and telling players to stop pushing and shoving but then allow a goal from that same corner where a defenders arm has clearly been dragged from behind. This may not be clear but that’s what VAR is there for. If this was the other way around it would never of been given.
7) I wasn’t over keen on the murderers shouts from a group of lads in the North End, bit scummy.
Mate, I love the optimism but we are light years behind them after 30 years of terrible ownership. Even if we got to a point where we were able to spend as much as them, as we were performing well, the league would probably just change the rules again to make sure that gulf isn't crossed. They'll probably spend another 400mil this year like it's nothing.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Moyes first choice LB is Mykolenko
Moues first choice RB is O'Brien
Thats a fact.
The backup LB is Aznou
The backup RB is Patterson
Moyes signed Aznou.
Moyes refused to continue talks with either Truffert or Wesley who were Thelwell choices.
Moyes wanted Tete who had premier league experience.
He refused to sign anyone else.
Patterson has done fine this season and Aznou did well in his LW cameo we have no idea how good he is.
Weve got the numbers.
As for quality its clear that Moyes will favour premier league experience and ageing players.
Who is going to join this club under Moyes unless theyre nailed on starters?
We have Aznou. How do we know hes not good enough?
We have Patterson who is an average right back.
Surely its clear Moyes went with O'Brien at preseason and has used him at RB whenever he can. To Moyes hes a RB.
If we get Europe then we'll see what this new recruitment team who have been chosen by Moyes, can do.
If we dont then he'll blame us not having Europe.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
A break in play and any manager worth their salt gets players over to him and drums that into his team: pepper the Liverpool box with crosses and put an inexperienced GK under maximum pressure.
Moyes sat there gurning his stupid 'kin face for 40 minutes as the game slipped away from us.
The Kopites love Moyes. They feel very, very safe going into derbies with him in charge of Everton because - and despite all his faux 'stern-ness' - they know he's a clueless
house of a manager.
Well. we're sorting out the running of the club, so the one remaining advantage they have over us is the size of their global fanbase and the money it generates. I honestly believe we will start closing that gap now. Once Liverpool Waters is complete, we'll be a huge magnet for attention, new fans and all that global branding nonsense that has put the reds where they are.
As already stated youre quoting depth of squad that isn't up to standard, you said it yourself Paterson 'average'
We need players in every position pushing each other, we don't have that atm and we're getting by with the few quality players we have.
I'm not getting into an argument, if you think we have quality strength in depth fair enough it's your opinion.
blackie_jones75
Player Valuation: £5m
Unfortunately correct, they do love Moyes, they don't see him as any threat whatsoever.A break in play and any manager worth their salt gets players over to him and drums that into his team: pepper the Liverpool box with crosses and put an inexperienced GK under maximum pressure.
Moyes sat there gurning his stupid 'kin face for 40 minutes as the game slipped away from us.
The Kopites love Moyes. They feel very, very safe going into derbies with him in charge of Everton because - and despite all his faux 'stern-ness' - they know he's a clueless
I suppose you like Mcneil who had two ,five second flashes that will give him a place in the next game . All is never black or white and freak results do happen but Moyes is and has been for a while too stuck in his style ,why do you think he shouldn't play other players ? Please don't say that they don't have experience ! How do they get it ? Why did he sign off on Alcaraz ,Röhl and Dibling ? Why did he keep Armstrong ? Why doesn't he play a right back as a right back ?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
If you reverse it: we'd be putting up tifo of any Liverpool manager whole airlifted us to 16 derby wins in 12 seasons. We'd make him into one of the towering figures in Merseyside football history.
It is the hope that kills you ,that and expecting miracles .There is no way we can bridge the gap ,there was even a gap when we won in the eighties ,it is not a premiership thing it is much deeper and longer than that ,it goes back to Shankly's time.
WilliamBoo
Player Valuation: £2.5m
who does not risk, does not win.
Stability means do what? Compete ?Are you satisfied being in the middle of the standings?
The best players run away from these kinda of teams .
No, the time is now
Can't see it now myself , the baloon has been deflated
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Were 10th.
Patterson as an average backup right back isnt too bad really.
Any idea who Brentford, Bournemouth & Brightons backup full backs are?
At the end of the day though, these are Moyes chosen players for his squad.
The concern now is for the summer when we'll need starting full backs.
No point signing backup players as he'll never use them. If they do get a few mins and perform well he'll drop them anyway.
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