Everton, I love you, but ffs.

[RFUS]

I, as someone who detests Wolves and Mick McCarthy, was just checking the table and laughing at their recent plight. I was revelling in the fact that they've got the worst away record in the league -- 1 draw, and 6 losses.

And then I thought... "Hang on a minute... didn't we get a draw against them this season?"

Turns out we've been the only team [Poor language removed] enough to drop points at home to the team playing the wrong sport; Rugby. And I wasn't surprised.


And that kind of sums up why I, and so many, are a bit fed up of our tactics. If even Mick "BREAK THEIR LEGS!" McCarthy can get his band of thugs to neutralise us, then what the feck are we still doing sticking to our guns? This trend's been going on for a while now, and most games are playing out in one of 3 ways:

a.) Team set up to stop us, sit deep. We struggle, but eventually get a goal.
b.) Team set up to stop us, sit deep. We struggle, they nick a point.
c.) Team set up to stop us, sit deep. We struggle, they score a breakaway goal and take all 3 points.


And option a isn't happening very often. We've beaten Birmingham -- needing an own goal to open the scoring, we've beaten Stoke after the Yak bailed us out, and we've beaten the shittest team to soil the city since Walter "there's only 1 point in this for us" Smith lead us to lower mid-table glory.

Sorry to be so negative, hombres, but I'm sitting here watching absolutely [Poor language removed] teams leapfrog us in the table. I'm watching the best Everton team on paper, I've ever seen in my lifetime, fall 7 points behind Bolton, and worse, 3 points behind the fecking barcodes. Even Woy's wankpots have overtaken us again, by 4 points.

Anything but a resounding win at Sunderland is unacceptable at this point. I don't care if they've just beaten Chelsea, because all they did was not cower in fear at the big bad title winners, and go for it. And looky here, they beat them 3-0. Paying respect to the big dogs until they chew your ******* face off isn't the way to go. You've got to grab them by the nutsack and squeeze. Ok, maybe I'm going off on a tangent now. But whatever, GET JO ON, FFS MOYLES, JOL IN etc etc.

 

[kenada_blue]

If we're going to be battling for European places...we need to start winning games now and running into Crimbo.

We're gonna be scrapping with Bolton, the RS, and Sunderland for a European spot Im telling ya.

 

[spikeman]

Well said

 

[Brownie]

You alright there mate?

 

[RFUS]

If we're going to be battling for European places...we need to start winning games now and running into Crimbo.

We're gonna be scrapping with Bolto, the RS, and Sunderland for a European Im telling ya.

Sunderland and Bolton could conceivably finish above us. That makes me want to slit my wrists with a rusty spoon.

You alright there mate?

No, mate. I'm pissed off. This must be what it feels like when you watch your kid trip over his laces and headbutt the hurdle, on sports day.

Or maybe I'm too competitive.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Don't know what you're moaning about mate, we could be battling relegation like we were in 2004 er i mean 1997.

Moyes is Moyes, he's never gonna change.

You get what you get with him, some good, some bad.

Just read the amount of fans all saying the same thing and then get used to it, its gonna be said for a long time because nothings gonna change.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

I'm watching the best Everton team on paper, I've ever seen in my lifetime, fall 7 points behind Bolton, and worse, 3 points behind the fecking barcodes. Even Woy's wankpots have overtaken us again, by 4 points.

Maybe the best in your time watching them but by no means are they anywhere near being one of the great Everton teams. If those poor teams are going past us does that not mean they are in fact better and it is us who are poor.

 

[RFUS]

Don't know what you're moaning about mate, we could be battling relegation like we were in 2004 er i mean 1997.

Moyes is Moyes, he's never gonna change.

You get what you get with him, some good, some bad.

Just read the amount of fans all saying the same thing and then get used to it, its gonna be said for a long time because nothings gonna change.

This is the problem for me though. I'd much rather it be as it is now, then how it was pre-Moyes. But settling for that shouldn't be enough. Moyes has done so well, and if we had a [Poor language removed] squad then fair enough, I'd be made up we're in 16th. But we don't. I'm watching us waste what he's built, and it's horrid.

Maybe the best in your time watching them but by no means are they anywhere near being one of the great Everton teams. If those poor teams are going past us does that not mean they are in fact better and it is us who are poor.

Yes, the best in my lifetime. I don't remember saying they're one of the great teams, clearly with nothing but an FA Cup final appearance to boast, they're not.

And the teams passing us are playing better than us -- yes it is us who are poor! That's why I'm pissed off. We're playing poorly, when contrasted with the quality we've got throughout the squad. We've got our best squad under Moyes, but we're playing some of our worst footie and getting some of our worst results.

 

[ChicagoToffee]

Funny to see Everton slide to 16th in the table without playing. 3 points are desperately needed come Monday.

 

[ChicagoToffee]

This is the problem for me though. I'd much rather it be as it is now, then how it was pre-Moyes. But settling for that shouldn't be enough. Moyes has done so well, and if we had a [Poor language removed] squad then fair enough, I'd be made up we're in 16th. But we don't. I'm watching us waste what he's built, and it's horrid.



Yes, the best in my lifetime. I don't remember saying they're one of the great teams, clearly with nothing but an FA Cup final appearance to boast, they're not.

And the teams passing us are playing better than us -- yes it is us who are poor! That's why I'm pissed off. We're playing poorly, when contrasted with the quality we've got throughout the squad. We've got our best squad under Moyes, but we're playing some of our worst footie and getting some of our worst results.

Amen. Amen. Something's got to be changed. No idea what it is but something, please Moyes.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

This is the problem for me though. I'd much rather it be as it is now, then how it was pre-Moyes. But settling for that shouldn't be enough. Moyes has done so well, and if we had a [Poor language removed] squad then fair enough, I'd be made up we're in 16th. But we don't. I'm watching us waste what he's built, and it's horrid.
.

Either Moyes changes or we change Moyes.

The former isn't going to happen, and if the latter does we risk losing everything Moyes has built up and all the positives he offers us.

We could get a new manager in who gets the best out of this squad and takes us into the top 4, wins a trophy and all on the same budget. I think we'd all agree this squad is capable of that at least.

Or we could get a new manager in who achieves the same as Moyes, gets us to 8th but can do more. But most importantly we get a manager who cannot operate in the transfer market like Moyes, does no have the same impact throughout the club as Moyes so we suffer.

Thats the risk.

Moyes out? Not that simple. But neither is Moyes in.

Round out is what its all about. If we had an experienced attacking minded number 2 who could work with Moyes instead of a yes man we'd be laughing.

 

[Summerskin]

We just seem to be pissed off and massively up for it once in a blue moon.

Both times against City last season (especially at home, must have given everyone a pack of pro-plus) and the derby this season we just got it right.

Your Sunderlands and West Broms never see Everton that pissed off, shame.

 

[faddy the blue]

I, as someone who detests Wolves and Mick McCarthy, was just checking the table and laughing at their recent plight. I was revelling in the fact that they've got the worst away record in the league -- 1 draw, and 6 losses.

And then I thought... "Hang on a minute... didn't we get a draw against them this season?"

Turns out we've been the only team [Poor language removed] enough to drop points at home to the team playing the wrong sport; Rugby. And I wasn't surprised.


And that kind of sums up why I, and so many, are a bit fed up of our tactics. If even Mick "BREAK THEIR LEGS!" McCarthy can get his band of thugs to neutralise us, then what the feck are we still doing sticking to our guns? This trend's been going on for a while now, and most games are playing out in one of 3 ways:

a.) Team set up to stop us, sit deep. We struggle, but eventually get a goal.
b.) Team set up to stop us, sit deep. We struggle, they nick a point.
c.) Team set up to stop us, sit deep. We struggle, they score a breakaway goal and take all 3 points.


And option a isn't happening very often. We've beaten Birmingham -- needing an own goal to open the scoring, we've beaten Stoke after the Yak bailed us out, and we've beaten the shittest team to soil the city since Walter "there's only 1 point in this for us" Smith lead us to lower mid-table glory.

Sorry to be so negative, hombres, but I'm sitting here watching absolutely [Poor language removed] teams leapfrog us in the table. I'm watching the best Everton team on paper, I've ever seen in my lifetime, fall 7 points behind Bolton, and worse, 3 points behind the fecking barcodes. Even Woy's wankpots have overtaken us again, by 4 points.

Anything but a resounding win at Sunderland is unacceptable at this point. I don't care if they've just beaten Chelsea, because all they did was not cower in fear at the big bad title winners, and go for it. And looky here, they beat them 3-0. Paying respect to the big dogs until they chew your ******* face off isn't the way to go. You've got to grab them by the nutsack and squeeze. Ok, maybe I'm going off on a tangent now. But whatever, GET JO ON, FFS MOYLES, JOL IN etc etc.

Nailed on.

 

[RFUS]

We just seem to be pissed off and massively up for it once in a blue moon.

Both times against City last season (especially at home, must have given everyone a pack of pro-plus) and the derby this season we just got it right.

Your Sunderlands and West Broms never see Everton that pissed off, shame.

Spot on, mate.

 

[Gwladys Nights]

Jo in. Jol on?