Everton are bigger than any manager any player. We the fans are the club.

[MACCA75]

A mercenary in football is someone who chooses job based on the money they earn rather than other considerations such as ability to win trophies or whatever.

A manager who earns huge wages with the chinese national football team is a mercenary. How is a manager who makes huge wages at a midtable trophyless team any less of one?

The only club teams in the world to pay their manager more than us are Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG, Guangzhou, Manchester United, Arsenal, Anzhi, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Spurs, Benfica and QPR. QPR are the only team of them who'd even consider him.

He is the best paid manager to never win a trophy in the history of football and he demanded that from us. He is here solely because nobody else will pay his wages and never sack him no matter what he does.

If he was a mercenary he would sign another contract. He wont though, despite the fact than he will very probably be on a smaller wage in his next job. He'll leave though because he is more ambitious than the board. And actually more ambitious than a lot of the fanbase.

I've said for a long time that if Moyes leaves before Kenwright then every Evertonian should hang their heads in shame.

 

[chicoazul]

Some strange spin being put on this situation really.

Nothing wrong with waiting until the Summer to see what position the club are in. He's come out and told it how it is, and that he wants to see where the club are in the Summer. Kenwright and Co. now have ample opportunity to sort out possible replacements in the event that he does decide to leave.

Were Everton (fubbellkluB ) and this is a manager that's won us the sum of [Poor language removed] all. He's in no position to be making a tit of us thinking he's bigger than the club in the media. And that's what he's doing.

 

[Timak]

This is true.

Remember the interview on BBC during the Euros? My god it was cringe worthy. He was basically showing Spurs his fanny and saying 'come and get me boys'.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18473869

"I hope to meet all my ambitions at Everton but you never know in this game," he said. "I've had no contact."
He added: "I'm ambitious and I want to try to win things and ideally I want to do that with Everton.
"We brought in two or three players in January and you could see the difference it made to the club, so we want to try and do that again.
"I told my chairman four weeks ago [that money was needed to compete] so for me my concentration is on getting Everton ready for the start of the season, and hopefully getting off to a better one than we've had in recent years.
"I've always been loyal and I will continue to be loyal to Everton - as long as they want me, I'm happy there."

 

[D410]

Moyes thinks he has us over a barrel and that's the thing doing my head in.

The thing is about our greatest managers is that they finished the job and won things. He hasn't. So all this putting things off to think is taking the piss out of every single one of us. I'd rather he stayed but it's like having a bird who thinks she's all that trying to dictate the relationship - on you go girl, I'll end up slotting one of your mates.

maybe we have relied to much on one man to keep our heads above the water. we,ve got the club we deserve because apart from a few pressure groups most of us have done nothing and will continue do nothing whoever comes in.

 

[MACCA75]

Some strange spin being put on this situation really.

Nothing wrong with waiting until the Summer to see what position the club are in. He's come out and told it how it is, and that he wants to see where the club are in the Summer. Kenwright and Co. now have ample opportunity to sort out possible replacements in the event that he does decide to leave.

Exactly, all this talk of 'leaving us in the lurch' is utter nonesense. People do realise that 90% of managerial appointments are made actually during a season?? It's February now, and we know there is at least a 50% chance that by August we will need a new manager. Really it is ample time to identify the right man and have him lined up.

 

[SunKing]

Tell you what, listening to this panel on SSN, when Moyes does go. Im giving Everton up, and I think all Everton fans should just stop going, after all, Moyes IS the reason we are who we are, we have to thank him for Dixie, Ball, Labone, 9 titles, 5 FA Cups, 1 WC, 100+ years in top flight.

I want to even thank him for building Goodison, and deciding to take us away from Anfield.

Cheers Moyes.

Just seen this then, those comments were incredibly derogatory towards the club as if we literally couldn't function without St. Dave. Only Le Tiss seemed to have some reasonable comments. "Worst job in the world" - Paul Merson. Moron.

 

[chicoazul]

maybe we have relied to much on one man to keep our heads above the water. we,ve got the club we deserve because apart from a few pressure groups most of us have done nothing and will continue do nothing whoever comes in.

I think him going will be the catalyst that f*cks off the board, well I hope anyway mate.

 

[met069]

I wonder how many supporters of other storied clubs have said the same thing before they pulled a Villa (or worse).

Sure, Everton will exist after Moyes, BK, et al. But don't take what we have for granted.

 

[Brennan]

Were Everton (fubbellkluB ) and this is a manager that's won us the sum of [Poor language removed] all. He's in no position to be making a tit of us thinking he's bigger than the club in the media. And that's what he's doing.

How has he made a tit of the club ?

He got asked about his plans to sign a new contract and he answered the question honestly. I don't get what he's done that's so outrageous. If he had just kept saying 'no comment' for the next three months the speculation from that would hardly have been any better. Now everybody knows what the situation is. The fans would have fumed either way.

 

[Tubey]

Were Everton (fubbellkluB ) and this is a manager that's won us the sum of [Poor language removed] all. He's in no position to be making a tit of us thinking he's bigger than the club in the media. And that's what he's doing.

This on toast.

I just want him to go. I have no idea why some people hold him up as bigger than the club, like he has the "right" to hold the club to ransom.

Who does he think he is, seriously?

 

[Allezfan]

He's been offered a contract at the club, something 90% of managers would kill for.

You either say yes or say no. This whole 'I'll stick around for the time being and see if anything better comes along and then I'll deign to stay with you if it doesn't' is insulting.

 

[noharmdone]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18473869

What a tit Lineker is there..

 

[Tubey]

He's been offered a contract at the club, something 90% of managers would kill for.

You either say yes or say no. This whole 'I'll stick around for the time being and see if anything better comes along and then I'll deign to stay with you if it doesn't' is insulting.

Again, this.

Look at the following quote from October:

“I don’t want my contract to take away from the concentration and the focus. I don’t want any distractions.

“I’m trying not to make it a big issue. Does it become a bigger issue after January? Maybe.”

So he knows full well the impact it's having. It's a distraction. If he came out and said "I'm going", fine. If not, sign the contract and be done with it. Nothing whatsoever is going to change between now and the end of the season, he already knows the score with the club and he's being disingenuous.

We ALL know what he's doing - he's stringing the club along because he knows the managerial merry-go-round begins in June/July, and he wants to see what jobs become available.

For a club of our size, that is simply not acceptable. We're not AFC Wimbledon or Peterborough; we're Everton, and that means a manager - especially one who has won sod all in his entire career and bottled it on every big occasion you care to think of - can't take us for a ride.

Get rid, we're bigger and better than him.

 

[MACCA75]

He's been offered a contract at the club, something 90% of managers would kill for.

You either say yes or say no. This whole 'I'll stick around for the time being and see if anything better comes along and then I'll deign to stay with you if it doesn't' is insulting.

I think he's waiting to see if we have Champions League football to be honest - i actually think he'll go as soon as it's evident that we wont have, and are out of the cup.

 

[Azzurri]

People acting like Moyes is bigger than the club do my head in. We're founder members of the football league which we've competed in longer than any other club and won NINE times, by the way. Football wasn't invented in 1992 you blert stains.