Europe Thread 25/26

[Nymzee]

Moyes spent £179m at the start of the 22/23 season and this was the table after their first 26 games in the Lampard/Dyche season.

He did get them to 40 points in the end & won the Conference League but it wasn’t straightforward for him.

And we spent over £100m last summer on relative tat currently a few points shy of CL places. Seasons can go either way.

 

[jago1878]

If that Spurs team can qualify for the last 16 then so can we. Its about keeping the core of the squad fit. That's the key.

We aren't capable of getting to the last 16 of the CL. We've had a better season than expected but let's not get carried away.

 

[Bluepablo]

I personally think Moyes is a good manager at making the best of what hes got, but his issues are primarily in being allowed to chose his players. Thats a good example of that. His expensive transfers have rarely worked out, instead hes gotten more traction from the less expensive lesser valued players he makes better.

Its not a pretty transfer history post-ManU, and he(and us) would be best served by someone else being the primary decision maker on transfers. Right now we are challenging for Europe with pretty much Kevin Thelwells squad, with only 1 of our 9 new transfers playing.

I think if we let someone else make this summers decisions, he can lead this team to the CL.

I’d agree that Moyes is a good coach but his main ability transfer wise is with proven experienced players (which are expensive with little resale) or players requiring some sort of rehabilitation such as Arteta, Pinnear, Lingard, KDH, Grealish. It’s unfortunate that he refuses to work with a DOF.

 

[Blast_of_Cannock]

Not since we were last in Europe that mate.

I don't take much notice of the European competitions so I didn't realise it had changed. It was wrong IMO to have a get-out for failing in the first place, so I'm glad they've changed it.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

I didn’t bring it up again..

(But what about Wolves though?)

We played a team that on paper was easily good enough to win. It's not like he played a bunch of youth team players. Every one of those players bar Dibling has played a significant number of minutes this season. And we probably had a deal with the keeper that he would play in the Carabao cup.

 

[hallamblue]

I've done the Premier League predictor and have us in 10th at the end of the season but very tight between 7th and 12th. Incidentally I have Arsenal winning the league by 1 point!!

 

[Simon Buttle]

I’d agree that Moyes is a good coach but his main ability transfer wise is with proven experienced players (which are expensive with little resale) or players requiring some sort of rehabilitation such as Arteta, Pinnear, Lingard, KDH, Grealish. It’s unfortunate that he refuses to work with a DOF.

I think they get round that a bit by creating that role for footballing strategy or whatever its called. I think this window will be similar to the last, you will see a few 'Moyes' signings and a few 'TFG' signings, just have to hope the TFG ones can make a bit more of an impression next season.

 

[blue to the bone]

No I want him to stop changing a winning team and throwing away cup games.
Plus playing a teenage CM on the wing when we have wingers on the bench…

What about you? Or is everything perfect?

A few weeks ago you wanted him gone immediately and insulted anyone who backed him long term.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

We played a team that on paper was easily good enough to win. It's not like he played a bunch of youth team players. Every one of those players bar Dibling has played a significant number of minutes this season. And we probably had a deal with the keeper that he would play in the Carabao cup.

So… if it wasn’t the players… who was it?

 

[AsiaAsia82]

A few weeks ago you wanted him gone immediately and insulted anyone who backed him long term.

I said he shouldn’t change a winning team an he was shoehorning his favourites in at the detriment of the team shape.

 

[blue to the bone]

I said he shouldn’t change a winning team an he was shoehorning his favourites in at the detriment of the team shape.

What about the insults?

 

[AsiaAsia82]

What about the insults?

I’ve forgiven you for them. We all have different viewpoints.

He comes across cowardly in big games, that’s his failure.
He also takes an age to adapt to other teams tactics.

But let’s hope he gets it right in the next 2 games. UTFT.

 

[blue to the bone]

I’ve forgiven you for them. We all have different viewpoints.

He comes across cowardly in big games, that’s his failure.
He also takes an age to adapt to other teams tactics.

But let’s hope he gets it right in the next 2 games. UTFT.

You owe me and @matty1878 an apology. Off you go

 

[AsiaAsia82]

You owe me and @matty1878 an apology. Off you go

I’m more than happy to apologise if I insulted anyone personally.

 

[blue to the bone]

I’m more than happy to apologise if I insulted anyone personally.

You called poor matty the love child of Bill Kenwright . Not nice