Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Tubey said:
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Pretty conclusive I think.......
 
peteblue said:
I think it would be very foolish of the Government to ignore the views and concerns of the crown if the queen opposed an appointment......
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In private, you might be right. But the HOC holds the aces, so it would be foolish for the Palace to ignore their choice, imo.
 
peteblue said:
Do you have evidence that Putin is funding groups within the European Parliament.

Do you believe calling the USA President elect a 'clown' marks him out as a negotiator, considering how critical you were of David Davis.

Do you have any proof, apart from your opinion, that Trump is in fact a clown......
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Marine Le Penn has received funding from Russian Government.

Last time I checked Trump was not involved in the Brexit negotiations.

How long have you got on Trump is a clown?
 
The Esk said:
Marine Le Penn has received funding from Russian Government.

Last time I checked Trump was not involved in the Brexit negotiations.

How long have you got on Trump is a clown?
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Nobody said that Trump was involved in Brexit negotiations. But if you were Mr Trump and your long term mates in the UK wanted to leave the EU, but were having difficult negotiations over trade, and the EU kept calling you a clown amongst a raft of other personal remarks, what would you do ?....just think about it......
 
The geo-political consequences of Brexit alongside a belligerent Putin and an isolationist US are huge, and completely over-looked on my opinion.

Regardless of one's view of the EU, Europe is being attacked from all sides and from mal-contents within.

Historically unrest in Europe has not been good on a global basis.
 
peteblue said:
Nobody said that Trump was involved in Brexit negotiations. But if you were Mr Trump and your long term mates in the UK wanted to leave the EU, but were having difficult negotiations over trade, and the EU kept calling you a clown amongst a raft of other personal remarks, what would you do ?....just think about it......
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Trump's interests and loyalties extend as far as Trump, no further. Any perceived interest or friendliness towards UK are not for our benefit, and ultimately will further isolate us in a protectionist world.
 
The Esk said:
Trump's interests and loyalties extend as far as Trump, no further. Any perceived interest or friendliness towards UK are not for our benefit, and ultimately will further isolate us in a protectionist world.
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But what would you do. The Eu is insulting you, openly and frequently, you have a golden opportunity to help your closest military and economic partner and at the same time shove two fingers up to the EU. Or do you think he's too good a politician to take revenge......what would you do in his place, if you were actually Trump........
 
The Esk said:
The geo-political consequences of Brexit alongside a belligerent Putin and an isolationist US are huge, and completely over-looked on my opinion.

Regardless of one's view of the EU, Europe is being attacked from all sides and from mal-contents within.

Historically unrest in Europe has not been good on a global basis.
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Different world Esk. Germany, and let's be clear here because they usually cause the problems, always had the same or even better weapons than their opponents. With the exception of France, who know how to stay out of trouble when needed, the EU countries have no direct access to the weapons available to Putin, Trump or May, and France certainly wouldn't put themselves on the firing line. So any unrest in Europe is now purely for Europe to resolve because if they take it outside into Russia then they will disappear in a cloud of nuclear ash. This is a big fear of mine, that these egotists in Brussels believe that they are always right and that they can push Putin as much as they like.

Brexit if anything makes us safer because we will not be tied into any of their foolishness and will remain close to the worlds only superpower....
 
The Esk said:
Marine Le Penn has received funding from Russian Government.

Last time I checked Trump was not involved in the Brexit negotiations.

How long have you got on Trump is a clown?
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Everyone has received funding from the Russians, though. That whole Deripaska thing a while back with Osborne and Mandleson was about Russian money; to single out Le Pen for that (as opposed to her politics) does miss the point that European politics, especially ours, is awash with Russian money.
 
tsubaki said:
Everyone has received funding from the Russians, though. That whole Deripaska thing a while back with Osborne and Mandleson was about Russian money; to single out Le Pen for that (as opposed to her politics) does miss the point that European politics, especially ours, is awash with Russian money.
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Even Chelsea has received Russian money......all donations or loans carry some form of recompense, just look at who was funding Clinton........
 
The Esk said:
Trump's interests and loyalties extend as far as Trump, no further. Any perceived interest or friendliness towards UK are not for our benefit, and ultimately will further isolate us in a protectionist world.
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Is that why he opened a golf course in Scotland to pay back some of his heritage then - no money is bad money look at the owner of Chelsea owes the EU a mass of VAT won't pay it !
If trump pumped billions into our club (don't like him) , but the fans would be made up that's life as they say!
he's teasing the May government with Farage as Farage will become the unofficial ambassador for us to best the EU down to size one thing about Farage like him or loathe him if it gets nasty no one knows better the chinks in the EU armour than him !
Brexit will get nasty no doubts as we will be the biggest contributor to leave it they will try and sink us!
 
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