Current Affairs EU In or Out

[GrandOldTeam]

As I understand it it's using representative samples, so yes there will be questions of absolute accuracy as with any polling.

Just like the poll in this thread?

Point is, when the 'representative samples' are incorrect on the overall outcome - just like the GE polls - then the even finer details like which age group voted is likely to be about as accurate as the poll on here - 67%+ voting remain.

 

[The Mighty Quint]

In the end the public saw right through the scaremongering, we'll get the trade deals done, it is in the best interests of all parties to continue to trade with other Euro countries.

 

[everton2004]

Just putting it out there. Does this vote mean the end of the EU as we all know it?

We reform and stay in with better terms, then all the other main countries vote and leave because they want preferential treatment as well. This then changes the picture of it dramatically because you can't favour 6-7 countries all at the same time so the way the EU can carry on is by changing.

I think that's the way it will head. Now they've seen a Leave vote succeed in the UK, there will be other countries wanting a vote. With elections looming, political parties will do the same as the tories did and promise a vote. This is the beginning of the end of the EU in it's current form.

 

[Jags..class]

Millions of people get cancer every year doesn't mean it's a good idea to drink polonium tea every night before bed.

Look I've seen kids leave college and struggle to get a job and their only option was to sign on in the last 10 years. I've seen people lose their jobs and their homes. The EU might have been good to you and me but that does not apply to everyone.

 

[Ashtonian]

If someone said the earth was flat, you would expect people to use evidence to say why it isn't. If that evidence was then ignored by a majority of people then yes, I would question their faculties. That's exactly what has happened here. There is barely a scrap of evidence to suggest this is even a remotely good decision.

To reform our position? EU won't want us to go so now we are in a much stronger position to challenge them to get the power or at least standing in there.

It isn't all black and white, leave doesn't mean we are leaving it just enforces the fact that we aren't happy with the way things are.

 

[Ashtonian]

I think that's the way it will head. Now they've seen a Leave vote succeed in the UK, there will be other countries wanting a vote. With elections looming, political parties will do the same as the tories did and promise a vote. This is the beginning of the end of the EU in it's current form.

Whether it will win or not how many people in different countries now will vote leave given the chance solely based on the fact we did? That could be the knock on effect and for all the backlash from remain voters for the fact they lost, the bigger picture is that it could well benefit our European standing in the future

 

[Tramps_mate]

What would the percentage figures be without the heavily squewed remain figures from Scotland and London?

 

[Kiwi]

To reform our position? EU won't want us to go so now we are in a much stronger position to challenge them to get the power or at least standing in there.

It isn't all black and white, leave doesn't mean we are leaving it just enforces the fact that we aren't happy with the way things are.

I don't know why you think voting to leave means you won't leave.
What if you don't get offered better terms and do leave, what then?

 

[Harryflashman]

Look I've seen kids leave college and struggle to get a job and their only option was to sign on in the last 10 years. I've seen people lose their jobs and their homes. The EU might have been good to you and me but that does not apply to everyone.

You think a self induced recession will be good for those kids ?

 

[Lee Smith]

I haven't slept in 24 hours, my bad for mistaking Nissan and Subaru.

So all we do now is hope for the best? Look, I'm happy to vault you in 2025, but can the other 15m people who voted the same as me do the same? Because we're the ones who thought hoping for the best wasn't good enough.

Don't worry mate, they're both sweet motors!

What you see as just 'hoping for the best'; some of us, me included, see as an opportunity to move forward as an independent nation without the restraints of the EU beurocracy, a chance to forge our own trade deals with much larger economies globally, to be free from the risks associated with the demise of the EU or the bail outs to faltering member states.

I really hate arguing with fellow Blues cos we're all boss at the end of the day, but we are all human so will all have our own views and outlook on things. At the end of the day no one knows for sure what will happen in the future, this could be the best or it could be the worst move we've made as a nation. But it gives us a fairly clean slate to work with and I'd like to think that as a country we can move forward and prosper from this point forward.

Anyway, have we signed Wes Hoolahan yet?!

 

[zirc]

Look I've seen kids leave college and struggle to get a job and their only option was to sign on in the last 10 years. I've seen people lose their jobs and their homes. The EU might have been good to you and me but that does not apply to everyone.

I can guarantee you there wil be a net loss of jobs in the UK as a result of this.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

To reform our position? EU won't want us to go so now we are in a much stronger position to challenge them to get the power or at least standing in there.

It isn't all black and white, leave doesn't mean we are leaving it just enforces the fact that we aren't happy with the way things are.

Jesus, that's one heck of a game of poker with the future of the continent. Incredibly irresponsible.

 

[anton66]

Just putting it out there. Does this vote mean the end of the EU as we all know it?

We reform and stay in with better terms, then all the other main countries vote and leave because they want preferential treatment as well. This then changes the picture of it dramatically because you can't favour 6-7 countries all at the same time so the way the EU can carry on is by changing.

Probably a very weak EU financially. Other EU members are going to have to put a lot more money into the pot.

 

[ste d' indica]

Just like the poll in this thread?

Point is, when the 'representative samples' are incorrect on the overall outcome - just like the GE polls - then the even finer details like which age group voted is likely to be about as accurate as the poll on here - 67%+ voting remain.

We'll be able to compare the polls with the actual results in due course. I suspect they'll be a fairly accurate reflection.

 

[Kiwi]

I can guarantee you there wil be a net loss of jobs in the UK as a result of this.

I can't see it being pretty.
It without doubt wasn't the greatest system under the EU but the fallout from leaving will likely be worse, much worse.