Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Joey66]

I've read hundreds upon hundreds of posts Joey, you're aware of this.

We did cock it up, the EU spent the money. There's nothing more to it than that.

other than it was our funds they spent yes?

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

other than it was our funds they spent yes?

I don't recall them taking it out of my pocket - you can argue that it was 'our' money.

Simple question for you - would it have been done by our central government if the EU hadn't done it?

 

[Joey66]

I don't recall them taking it out of my pocket - you can argue that it was 'our' money.

Simple question for you - would it have been done by our central government if the EU hadn't done it?

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/ex...money-pointless-projects-says-Stephen-Pollard
yes I have seen many EU projects that are not sucessful - yes Liverpool 1 is quite good, but please do not judge that our membershup funds is not our money given back to us in rebates!
getting back to our new ground the city council will develop infrastructure if its at the Bramley docks we will pay for a derelict site and put hopefully a fantastic stadia in all that will benefit the area no EU involvement just business es and the council getting together the EU is not the ball all and end all for development!

 

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http://www.express.co.uk/comment/ex...money-pointless-projects-says-Stephen-Pollard
yes I have seen many EU projects that are not sucessfulll yes Liverpool 1 is quite good but please do not judge that our membershup funds is not our money given back to us in rebates!

I'm aware of how the system works.

I will use that as part of my judgement though. The EU is responsible for major progress in the place where many of us live/are from - as they are in plenty of other places across the UK.

 

[Joey66]

I'm aware of how the system works.

I will use that as part of my judgement though. The EU is responsible for major progress in the place where many of us live/are from - as they are in plenty of other places across the UK.

Yes in a deficit to the UK budget of 8.5 billion net!

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

Yes in a deficit to the UK budget of 8.5 billion net!

A figure which does not take into account the positive effects on the UK economy by virtue of being in the club.

To really simplify it, we're basically paying for a pass which entitles us to benefits.

 

[Joey66]

A figure which does not take into account the positive effects on the UK economy by virtue of being in the club.

To really simplify it, we're basically paying for a pass which entitles us to benefits.

what you see is positive 17.5 million people disagreed with you ok!

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

what you see is positive 17.5 million people disagreed with you ok!

Why do you keep repeating the same stat when you run out of answers?

I reckon you've posted the result to myself on no fewer than ten occasions.

A closing down of a debate because one side has been favoured know as the 'tyranny of the majority'.

 

[Joey66]

what you see is positive 17.5 million people disagreed with you ok!

Why do you keep repeating the same stat when you run out of answers?

I reckon you've posted the result to myself on no fewer than ten occasions.

A closing down of a debate because one side has been favoured know as the 'tyranny of the majority'.

That Stat as you put it is a fact a tru democratic fact that you seem to ignore ok!
its not tyranny it was a result after a three month democratic debate in which Remain lost just live with it!

 

[peteblue]

Canadian finance minister Bill Morneau has said that he wanted to keep the UK In the EU-Canada free-trade agreement signed last month. "Our expectation is that Britain will ratify the Ceta deal and be part of that deal with Canada," he told the BBC on Wednesday. He added that Canada was willing to work with the UK after Brexit to see how Ceta could apply.

 

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That Stat as you put it is a fact a tru democratic fact that you seem to ignore ok!
its not tyranny it was a result after a three month democratic debate in which Remain lost just live with it!

I'm aware of us leaving and at risk of repeating myself for the xth time, I am aware that we now have to leave the EU.

The result in itself is not tyranny. People trying to shut down the debate and/or the opponents of the Leave vote are trying to exercise tyranny.

Joey, if you don't want to debate it, you're in the wrong thread.

 

[Joey66]

I'm aware of us leaving and at risk of repeating myself for the xth time, I am aware that we now have to leave the EU.

The result in itself is not tyranny. People trying to shut down the debate and/or the opponents of the Leave vote are trying to exercise tyranny.

Joey, if you don't want to debate it, you're in the wrong thread.

I don't want to repeat the same argument with you I see it's my turn today, you badger other OUT posters with the same rhetoric no one is shutting down debate, but your inability to argue black is white is a little tiresome, let's see what happens in Italy next when the Euro may collapse and a referendum on going back to the lira may have serious implications on the EU - Italy's bonds have spiked they are in more debt than any EU country apart from Greece !
The sooner we are out, the better trade deals with the USA and other economies apart from Europe look more exciting IMO ATM - trade Retail figures in U.K. Are up and back in line before Brexit by the way more expert analysis that has gone down the toilet!
I tend to watch Polictical programmes to back my verdict that the OUT vote on a Polictical EU union was the correct result , and only big business is trying to put a spoke in the wheel!

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

I don't want to repeat the same argument with you I see it's my turn today, you badger other OUT posters with the same rhetoric no one is shutting down debate, but your inability to argue black is white is a little tiresome, let's see what happens in Italy next when the Euro may collapse and a referendum on going back to the lira may have serious implications on the EU - Italy's bonds have spiked they are in more debt than any EU country apart from Greece !
The sooner we are out, the better trade deals with the USA and other economies apart from Europe look more exciting IMO ATM - trade Retail figures in U.K. Are up and back in line before Brexit by the way more expert analysis that has gone down the toilet!
I tend to watch Polictical programmes to back my verdict that the OUT vote on a Polictical EU union was the correct result , and only big business is trying to put a spoke in the wheel!

Please provide some evidence to back-up these statements.

 

[Joey66]

Please provide some evidence to back-up these statements.

The referendum result the present governments stance go and Google it yourself ok!

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

The referendum result the present governments stance go and Google it yourself ok!

How does that evidence:
1. Nobody is shutting down debate?
2. I've an inability to argue back?
3. ONLY big business is trying to 'put a spoke in the wheel'?