Current Affairs EU In or Out

[dandydan]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/72...t-Parliament-Article-50-triggered-IMMEDIATELY
Lord Chief Justice announced on Thursday the PM does not have the power to start the process of taking Britain out of the EU without a Parliamentary vote.

Lord Thomas declared: "The Government does not have power under the Crown's prerogative to give notice pursuant to Article 50 for the UK to withdraw from the EU."

Mr Rees-Mogg said the decision came as a surprise it was made perfectly clear by former Prime Minister David Cameron that Article 50 would be triggered if the British people voted to leave the European Union on June 23.

The anti-EU politician told Sky News: “This has turned it on its head because of course the royal prerogative cannot change the law and therefore anything that is in law remains the law, but what it can do is change treaties and has always been able to do.


“And Parliament has already been involved - that is the key thing.

“Parliament passed the referendum bill under the clear understanding from David Cameron that Article 50 would be exercised immediately.

“The then-PM’s view, as stated to Parliament, as stated to the country, was that he would exercise Article 50 on Friday morning.”

Mr Rees-Mogg added: “So that has been slightly delayed but that doesn’t change the fact that Parliament gave the responsibility to decide whether we remained in the European Union to the British people and the British people decided to go.”

He said: “What surprises me is every court case brought against a European treaty the powers were flowing to the European Union the courts upheld, they upheld the royal prerogative.

“And now when it’s about taking powers away from the European Union suddenly they are ruling against the royal prerogative. So I think it is a very surprising judgment and we will need to look at the politics of it very carefully.”

 

[joey_macmo]

if every mp voted as per their constituency would brexit win? interesting to see if the popular vote reflects seats in parliament

I'd imagine so

 

[The Esk]

Not the brightest of MPs .....

 

[joey_macmo]

Mr Rees-Mogg added: “So that has been slightly delayed but that doesn’t change the fact that Parliament gave the responsibility to decide whether we remained in the European Union to the British people”

You forgot to bold this bit which is so clearly incorrect

 

[joey_macmo]

Not the brightest of MPs .....

His constituents voted to remain so im told, power to the people indeed.

One Nay vote cast then I presume

 

[Toffeelover]

It has been alleged tome after time that the vote to leave would be a catastrophe but as not it been considered by those who voted to remain what the future would hold.

It has been glossed over and downplayed but this info found by Peteblue reveals the core thinking behind the EU project, not this year or next but eventually.

"This is what Merkel said about the Superstate back in 2012.......

German Chancellor Angela Merkel outlined her vision of Europe in a speech to the European Parliament November 7. But it was when she stepped away from her prepared notes to respond to a statement by parliamentary leaders that she revealed most about the future she sees for the European Union.

The EU will transform into single nation—a superstate—“otherwise it will not work in the long term,” she said. Here is Merkel’s full statement:

"I’m sure the Commission will become a government one day. I’m sure that the Council will become a second chamber one day. And I’m sure the European Parliament will take European responsibilities otherwise it won’t work in the long term. But today we must save the euro and create the basis properly. And we must give people a little bit of time so that they can come with us."

For those who voted to remain, is this what you are looking forward to? Have you not envisaged this coming to be whilst just voting for the current status quo?

 

[The Esk]

Richard Tice, Chair of Leave means Leave:

"This is disgraceful – 17.4m people will be furious today.

Our democracy is being damaged by an elite band of people in the legal system.

There is absolutely no need for a parliamentary vote.

The question was put to the British people and they voted to leave the EU. British business has reacted well to the Brexit vote and it is essential that the process of leaving the EU begins as soon as possible to ensure confidence in the British economy continues.

A vote in Parliament is wholly unnecessary, time consuming and betrays the democratic will of the people."

 

[Toffeelover]

For me the court ruling does not change anything. The majority of the population of this country voted to leave and that is exactly what should be followed never mind all these semantics by the stay in camp. Wonder what they would be saying if it had been the other way round and the leave campaign went to court for the law to agree with the majority and assert that that should be upheld.

 

[orchard]

Yes we did, but the waste of space has justified it on the grounds that an area called Torfaen (sp)is an addition to the constituency,and they voted out, and that there may well be an out majority in his constituency. He doesn't quantify/demonstrate this...

His constituents voted to remain so im told, power to the people indeed.

One Nay vote cast then I presume

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

For me the court ruling does not change anything. The majority of the population of this country voted to leave and that is exactly what should be followed never mind all these semantics by the stay in camp. Wonder what they would be saying if it had been the other way round and the leave campaign went to court for the law to agree with the majority and assert that that should be upheld.

You do realise that one of the claimants who brought the case was a Leave voter don't you?

 

[Barnfred 55]

It has been alleged tome after time that the vote to leave would be a catastrophe but as not it been considered by those who voted to remain what the future would hold.

It has been glossed over and downplayed but this info found by Peteblue reveals the core thinking behind the EU project, not this year or next but eventually.

"This is what Merkel said about the Superstate back in 2012.......

German Chancellor Angela Merkel outlined her vision of Europe in a speech to the European Parliament November 7. But it was when she stepped away from her prepared notes to respond to a statement by parliamentary leaders that she revealed most about the future she sees for the European Union.

The EU will transform into single nation—a superstate—“otherwise it will not work in the long term,” she said. Here is Merkel’s full statement:

"I’m sure the Commission will become a government one day. I’m sure that the Council will become a second chamber one day. And I’m sure the European Parliament will take European responsibilities otherwise it won’t work in the long term. But today we must save the euro and create the basis properly. And we must give people a little bit of time so that they can come with us."

For those who voted to remain, is this what you are looking forward to? Have you not envisaged this coming to be whilst just voting for the current status quo?

The democratic republic of Greater Germany.

 

[orchard]

1) Monmouth voted to Remain therefore I must/will support Remain

The Monmouthshire local authority area voted by a very narrow margin to Remain. The Monmouth parliamentary constituency has different boundaries and contains thousands of voters in Torfaen, which voted heavily for Brexit. Based on the Torfaen result, there is a strong possibility that there would have been a narrow margin for Brexit in the Monmouth constituency. However, it would have been close and nobody will ever know for sure.

Either way, please let me be clear: Wales voted for Brexit. I voted for Brexit. I will absolutely support Brexit.

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

It has been alleged tome after time that the vote to leave would be a catastrophe but as not it been considered by those who voted to remain what the future would hold.

It has been glossed over and downplayed but this info found by Peteblue reveals the core thinking behind the EU project, not this year or next but eventually.

"This is what Merkel said about the Superstate back in 2012.......

German Chancellor Angela Merkel outlined her vision of Europe in a speech to the European Parliament November 7. But it was when she stepped away from her prepared notes to respond to a statement by parliamentary leaders that she revealed most about the future she sees for the European Union.

The EU will transform into single nation—a superstate—“otherwise it will not work in the long term,” she said. Here is Merkel’s full statement:

"I’m sure the Commission will become a government one day. I’m sure that the Council will become a second chamber one day. And I’m sure the European Parliament will take European responsibilities otherwise it won’t work in the long term. But today we must save the euro and create the basis properly. And we must give people a little bit of time so that they can come with us."

For those who voted to remain, is this what you are looking forward to? Have you not envisaged this coming to be whilst just voting for the current status quo?

The UK had opted out of ever-closer union.

 

[joey_macmo]

For me the court ruling does not change anything. The majority of the population of this country voted to leave and that is exactly what should be followed never mind all these semantics by the stay in camp. Wonder what they would be saying if it had been the other way round and the leave campaign went to court for the law to agree with the majority and assert that that should be upheld.

No the majority of the population did not. Much closer to a quarter of the population did in fact.

You seem to also ignoring the fact that these "semantics" (damn that pesky law) were brought about by a leave voter.

 

[Tubey]

The UK had opted out of ever-closer union.

And has done long before this referendum...