Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

We can imagine it's a spectrum if that makes it easier, with soft at one end and hard at the other and different outcomes sitting at different points on the spectrum.

All negotiations are a spectrum of outcomes, which is why I do not like those who post certain and absolute outcomes. It's all a negotiation, and no matter what any politician across the whole of Europe is saying today, you can bet money that they will say something different tomorrow......we just need to wait, don't give away our negotiating strategy, and see what happens.....

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Probably far less places like here.

As it would've been from late 60's - late 80's/early 90's.

My guess is there's a bit too much going on in terms of investment and infrastructure for Liverpool to be forgotten now, like we were back then.

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

As it would've been from late 60's - late 80's/early 90's.

My guess is there's a bit too much going on in terms of investment and infrastructure for Liverpool to be forgotten now, like we were back then.

If we assume this is true, and I'm skeptical, we can fear for other places then. The north east? Glasgow?

 

[peteblue]

Probably far less places like here.

Perhaps, but like I said Labour was in power from 97-10 and the Libdems were in power 10-15 as well as just this Conservative Government......

 

[Bruce Wayne]

No I get it.

The EU has grown without democratic consent to become a far bigger beast.

In an ideal world, without the practicalities, I would have advocated leaving.

Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world.

We vote for MEPs so it isn't really without democratic consent.

 

[Joey66]

If we assume this is true, and I'm skeptical, we can fear for other places then. The north east? Glasgow?

Then they would vote the SNP out ?

 

[Joey66]

We vote for MEPs so it isn't really without democratic consent.

I respect Farage he was correct he was a turkey voting for Christmas- Again another saving in funds, as we govern ourselves!

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

Then they would vote the SNP out ?

SNP are broadly on the left. Should probably stick with them.

 

[peteblue]

Norway's centre party are not in government and lost votes at the last election, when it got 5.5% of the vote. Trygve Slagsvold Vedum is one of 18 members of Norway's Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs. The Centre Party proposed,

'In late 2012 the Centre Party caused controversy in Norway when it emerged that the party had demanded higher import tariffs on meat and hard cheeses to protect Norwegian farmers from foreign competition (when Vedum was Agriculture Minister).[22] This included increased duties of 429% on lamb, 344% on beef, and 277% on all but 14 exempted hard cheeses.[23]

The party is known in Norway for their support of high toll tariffs on foreign cheese and meat, called "toll protection",[24] and their proposal to shoot all wolves in Norway.[25] -Wiki. Not good for UK farmers.

The most important part of the article is that, ' Liam Fox, asked Norway’s trade and industry minster, Monica Mæland, to form a bilateral trade working group at a meeting between the two ministers and their officials on 14 September'. Fox was asking for negotiations to begin before formally invoking Article 50 and 'where it was rejected as likely to jeopardise Norway’s European Economic Area (EEA) agreement and “inappropriate” while Britain was still a full member of the EU'.

Fox was sent packing with his tail between his legs.

Oh dear, looks like Norway have denied the first article.....

The Norwegian foreign ministry has denied local press reports that it rejected a British request to set up a formal joint taskforce aimed at preparing a post-Brexit free trade deal between the two countries......

No one is going to admit that talks were either asked for or denied..

 

[roydo]

Oh dear, looks like Norway have denied the first article.....

The Norwegian foreign ministry has denied local press reports that it rejected a British request to set up a formal joint taskforce aimed at preparing a post-Brexit free trade deal between the two countries......

They better send us a Christmas Tree for Trafalger Square this year.

 

[Joey66]

SNP are broadly on the left. Should probably stick with them.

The most nationalist party in the U.K.? Yes

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

The most nationalist party in the U.K.? Yes

You can be nationalist and on the left.

 

[Joey66]

Oh dear, looks like Norway have denied the first article.....

The Norwegian foreign ministry has denied local press reports that it rejected a British request to set up a formal joint taskforce aimed at preparing a post-Brexit free trade deal between the two countries......

No one is going to admit that talks were either asked for or denied..

The EU just interfering shock horror the sooner we rid their Polictical dogma the better IMO!
They will trade when they sop the bulling and dimwit politicians weak inward looking get the faces rubbed in the dirt when thr UK succeeds in the long term!
Yes it will be bumpy but pip squeaks like Millaband and Clegg need to man up and respect the vote of OUT!

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

The EU just interfering shock horror the sooner we rid their Polictical dogma the better IMO!
They will trade when they sop the bulling and dimwit politicians weak inward looking get the faces rubbed in the dirt when thr UK succeeds in the long term!
Yes it will be bumpy but pip squeaks like Millaband and Clegg need to man up and respect the vote of OUT!

Ed has merely suggested formally consulting parliament (hardly unheard of in a representative democracy) and maintaining access to the single market.

 

[Joey66]

Ed has merely suggested formally consulting parliament (hardly unheard of in a representative democracy) and maintaining access to the single market.

Ed the one I voted for and the U K rejected he has ruined the Labour Party £3 membership bah Momentum bah lost more votes look who he has let into powerlollol