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Just a few facts and figures from this Guardian article...

"According to the Ministry of Justice (MoJ), more than one in nine prisoners, – 10,500 out of 88,225 – are foreign national offenders, costing the taxpayer about £500m a year.

Any foreign prisoner sentenced to more than 12 months in jail can be deported up to a year before the end of their sentence. Under new plans expected to be announced by the justice secretary and lord chancellor, Alex Chalk, on Monday, this will be brought forward by six months."

"In the year ending September 2022, 2,958 foreign national offenders were returned from the UK, according to the Home Office. The largest cohort (807) were Albanians, followed by 638 Romanians and 284 Poles."

"In 2015, David Cameron, as prime minister, announced plans to pay £25m to Jamaica to build a new prison in return for accepting 300 Jamaican criminals, which fell through when the deal was rejected by the Caribbean island’s government."

"There are two prisons which hold exclusively foreign prisoners awaiting deportation: HMP Maidstone in Kent and HMP Huntercombe near Henley-on-Thames, Oxfordshire."


 
Just a few facts and figures from this Guardian article...

"According to the Ministry of Justice (MoJ), more than one in nine prisoners, – 10,500 out of 88,225 – are foreign national offenders, costing the taxpayer about £500m a year.

Any foreign prisoner sentenced to more than 12 months in jail can be deported up to a year before the end of their sentence. Under new plans expected to be announced by the justice secretary and lord chancellor, Alex Chalk, on Monday, this will be brought forward by six months."

"In the year ending September 2022, 2,958 foreign national offenders were returned from the UK, according to the Home Office. The largest cohort (807) were Albanians, followed by 638 Romanians and 284 Poles."

"In 2015, David Cameron, as prime minister, announced plans to pay £25m to Jamaica to build a new prison in return for accepting 300 Jamaican criminals, which fell through when the deal was rejected by the Caribbean island’s government."

"There are two prisons which hold exclusively foreign prisoners awaiting deportation: HMP Maidstone in Kent and HMP Huntercombe near Henley-on-Thames, Oxfordshire."


Here’s a fact ….. 8 in 9 prisoners aren’t foreigners …. Amazing innit
 
"The UK and Albanian governments have agreed a ground-breaking arrangement that will see hundreds of Albanian prisoners returned to their home country in exchange for UK support to help modernise the Albanian prison system.

Under the new arrangement 200 Albanian nationals in prisons in England and Wales serving sentences of 4 years or more will be sent back to see out the remainder of their terms in Albanian prisons while helping to modernise prisons in Albania."


"It currently costs nearly £40,000 a year to house each prisoner in England and Wales.

The total cost of the deal for the MOJ is expected to be in the region of £8 million over 2 years, equating to £32 per prisoner per day, compared to £109 per day to house them in prisons in England and Wales. Home Office funding of around £4.4 million will also support the arrangement."



That's just under £12k per prisoner in an Albanian prison, vrs £40k per year in a British prison. Quite the saving!
 
"The UK and Albanian governments have agreed a ground-breaking arrangement that will see hundreds of Albanian prisoners returned to their home country in exchange for UK support to help modernise the Albanian prison system.

Under the new arrangement 200 Albanian nationals in prisons in England and Wales serving sentences of 4 years or more will be sent back to see out the remainder of their terms in Albanian prisons while helping to modernise prisons in Albania."


"It currently costs nearly £40,000 a year to house each prisoner in England and Wales.

The total cost of the deal for the MOJ is expected to be in the region of £8 million over 2 years, equating to £32 per prisoner per day, compared to £109 per day to house them in prisons in England and Wales. Home Office funding of around £4.4 million will also support the arrangement."



That's just under £12k per prisoner in an Albanian prison, vrs £40k per year in a British prison. Quite the saving!
Let's take a flight of fancy, not to Rwanda though...

*...So there's this problem see, I've got your knob head crims locked up and I don't like it, hows about I give you a few quid and you look after em.
Great idea, can I see the money please
Certainly, here you are
Cracking, these lads will finish their time here, don't you worry

[The following day.]

Right lads, I've got my money and I'll be damned if I'm spending it watching and feeding you. Stay out of trouble, on yer way...*

Lets see how committed you are to justice and atonement when apparently serious criminals are effectively freed because it's quite simply to much like hard work and costly to have law and order applied. So long as they aren't freed here, to hell with their crimes and whoever they've hurt?
 
Let's take a flight of fancy, not to Rwanda though...

*...So there's this problem see, I've got your knob head crims locked up and I don't like it, hows about I give you a few quid and you look after em.
Great idea, can I see the money please
Certainly, here you are
Cracking, these lads will finish their time here, don't you worry

[The following day.]

Right lads, I've got my money and I'll be damned if I'm spending it watching and feeding you. Stay out of trouble, on yer way...*

Lets see how committed you are to justice and atonement when apparently serious criminals are effectively freed because it's quite simply to much like hard work and costly to have law and order applied. So long as they aren't freed here, to hell with their crimes and whoever they've hurt?
fascinating simply fascinating
 
"The UK and Albanian governments have agreed a ground-breaking arrangement that will see hundreds of Albanian prisoners returned to their home country in exchange for UK support to help modernise the Albanian prison system.

Under the new arrangement 200 Albanian nationals in prisons in England and Wales serving sentences of 4 years or more will be sent back to see out the remainder of their terms in Albanian prisons while helping to modernise prisons in Albania."


"It currently costs nearly £40,000 a year to house each prisoner in England and Wales.

The total cost of the deal for the MOJ is expected to be in the region of £8 million over 2 years, equating to £32 per prisoner per day, compared to £109 per day to house them in prisons in England and Wales. Home Office funding of around £4.4 million will also support the arrangement."



That's just under £12k per prisoner in an Albanian prison, vrs £40k per year in a British prison. Quite the saving!
What's the cost of the deal? How much are we giving Albania to modernise their prisons?
 
Let's take a flight of fancy, not to Rwanda though...

*...So there's this problem see, I've got your knob head crims locked up and I don't like it, hows about I give you a few quid and you look after em.
Great idea, can I see the money please
Certainly, here you are
Cracking, these lads will finish their time here, don't you worry

[The following day.]

Right lads, I've got my money and I'll be damned if I'm spending it watching and feeding you. Stay out of trouble, on yer way...*

Lets see how committed you are to justice and atonement when apparently serious criminals are effectively freed because it's quite simply to much like hard work and costly to have law and order applied. So long as they aren't freed here, to hell with their crimes and whoever they've hurt?
Let's take a flight of fancy, not to Rwanda though...

*...So there's this problem see, I've got your knob head crims locked up and I don't like it, hows about I give you a few quid and you look after em.
Great idea, can I see the money please
Certainly, here you are
Cracking, these lads will finish their time here, don't you worry

[The following day.]

Right lads, I've got my money and I'll be damned if I'm spending it watching and feeding you. Stay out of trouble, on yer way...*

Lets see how committed you are to justice and atonement when apparently serious criminals are effectively freed because it's quite simply to much like hard work and costly to have law and order applied. So long as they aren't freed here, to hell with their crimes and whoever they've hurt?
so because the government is Albanian you reckon they can’t be trusted with the money ? tut tut rita
 
Whoa there, hold your horses, the conversation such as it was drifted into deporting uk born anyone. I still wanna know where to.

Yes, discussions change direction. It's pretty obvious I was addressing the subject of what should happen to non-national criminals. I haven't suggested deporting UK nationals. Perhaps you should address that question to those who have...
 
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