Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Jebus_lives]

No mate, I take onboard many comments, but spurious ‘get yourself educated’ drivel by idiots I tend to challenge…so I’ll wait for his proper reply before comment…..

If something has been explained to you on multiple occasions, by multiple different posters and you still don't understand it...

 

[Jebus_lives]

Bruce, it’s very simple. I’ll bet your mate who you mentioned came here legally, ask him how he feels about those that don’t bother but just jump on a rubber dingy. I’ve said before I have a son in the USA, even though married to a US national, Cherokee Indian btw, and filled in every form imaginable, it took 7 years and he was not allowed to leave the country during that time before becoming a US national. I have another son, working in Saudi, married to a Philippine wife with a child and grandchild and a house in Manila. He also has a place in the U.K. but they can only visit not live here. Perhaps they should just go to France buy their own boat and sail over. But they don’t, they want to do things legally and it takes time. I don’t know how many times I have to say this but I have no problem with immigration, just illegal immigration, people who cheat the system and cheat those wanting to follow the rules. You cannot understand this for some reason preferring to accuse me of either racism or ‘small village white attitude’, neither of which is true, just follow the law and the rules. If the law and the rules are wrong then get them changed, but don’t have a go at those who actually follow them…..

You seem to be confused about citizenship and asylum here.

 

[Ruairi77]

Bruce, you keep trying to play the race card. I’ve worked all over the world and with people in the U.K. who have come from all over the world. This is not about race. For me it’s about legal and illegal immigration and I couldn’t give a damn about colour or country of origin…..

for a while I've found it fascinating how easy the UK/EU/US makes it for white migrants compared to black migrants.
It might be about legal and illegal immigration for you but take a step back and see how fundamentally racist the systems in place are.

White privilege is the primary reason I'm a US citizen.

 

[peteblue]

You seem to be confused about citizenship and asylum here.

And you seem to be confused about Asylum seekers escaping punishment for beliefs or race, who have passed through a wide variety of your much vaunted and compassionate EU countries but are actually economic migrants. Arriving by rubber dingy from France is illegal immigration and would be treated as such if they went from the U.K. to France in rubber boats all overseen and supervised by criminal gangs…..

 

[Bruce Wayne]

And you seem to be confused about Asylum seekers escaping punishment for beliefs or race, who have passed through a wide variety of your much vaunted and compassionate EU countries but are actually economic migrants. Arriving by rubber dingy from France is illegal immigration and would be treated as such if they went from the U.K. to France in rubber boats all overseen and supervised by criminal gangs…..

What an utter wank stain.

 

[peteblue]

And there ended any sensible discussion….

 

[JimmyJeffers]

And you seem to be confused about Asylum seekers escaping punishment for beliefs or race, who have passed through a wide variety of your much vaunted and compassionate EU countries but are actually economic migrants. Arriving by rubber dingy from France is illegal immigration and would be treated as such if they went from the U.K. to France in rubber boats all overseen and supervised by criminal gangs…..

So Britain should take in no asylum seekers simply by virtue of our location then?

 

[JimmyJeffers]

And you seem to be confused about Asylum seekers escaping punishment for beliefs or race, who have passed through a wide variety of your much vaunted and compassionate EU countries but are actually economic migrants. Arriving by rubber dingy from France is illegal immigration and would be treated as such if they went from the U.K. to France in rubber boats all overseen and supervised by criminal gangs…..

So Britain should take in no asylum seekers simply by virtue of our location then?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

And there ended any sensible discussion….

You're an ignorant disgrace. No sensible discussion can be had.

 

[peteblue]

You're an ignorant disgrace. No sensible discussion can be had.

Bruce, you and I have argued the point about legal/illegal immigration many times. You believe in an open door, I believe in controlled immigration. You cannot bear to even recognise that some immigration is illegal. We will never agree, we have fundamentally different views on this, but until now you have at least not resorted to gutter language or abuse, which personally I think is a shame……

 

[Kurt.]

And you seem to be confused about Asylum seekers escaping punishment for beliefs or race, who have passed through a wide variety of your much vaunted and compassionate EU countries but are actually economic migrants. Arriving by rubber dingy from France is illegal immigration and would be treated as such if they went from the U.K. to France in rubber boats all overseen and supervised by criminal gangs…..

Except it isn’t…. But you already know this.

 

[peteblue]

Except it isn’t…. But you already know this.

Then try a definition…p.s. the clue is in the title…….

Illegal Migration Act 2023

These documents relate to the Illegal Migration Bill which received Royal Assent on 20 July 2023.

www.gov.uk

 

[Alan Whittle]

So Britain should take in no asylum seekers simply by virtue of our location then?

Unless they’re from Hong Kong. Parts of Bristol are now having to cope with a huge influx. Schools and NHS under increasing pressure. Somehow the government don’t see this as a problem.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

For about the 100th time (of course, this should actually bother people who care about this country upholding laws it's signed up to rather than being abhorrent shits)

The truth about asylum - Refugee Council

Looking for the facts about asylum? You can rely on the facts and figures in this article to give you the true picture about asylum.

www.refugeecouncil.org.uk

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

And you seem to be confused about Asylum seekers escaping punishment for beliefs or race, who have passed through a wide variety of your much vaunted and compassionate EU countries but are actually economic migrants. Arriving by rubber dingy from France is illegal immigration and would be treated as such if they went from the U.K. to France in rubber boats all overseen and supervised by criminal gangs…..

You've changed the ballpark here mate.