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No idea, it would take a detailed look at inventory and trading to know mate. I just put them up as an alternative narrative, one from someone with some inside information.
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orchard
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Only by a small margin, and the grift was hard, strong and very, very long. Far too many marks in the UK, far too long after the Enlightenment.
Is that stuff we manufacture from scratch here or process in some way and export? Just curious, sometimes the definitions are key. Point of origin etc.
I don't know really. It just felt like the Welsh chap was shouting "Brexit" without really any of his working to back it up, just as Farage was shouting "Net Zero" with similarly scant evidence. For the Byline Times guy to laud it as the equivalent of Woodward and Bernstein seemed a bit much. He was just preaching to a different choir.
Incidentally, one of the comments on the YouTube video did mention a new EU environmental directive that (they said) prevented the Welsh plant from exporting to the EU because the plant isn't to the right standard (compared to the NL plant). They argued that the Dutch government gave them a lot of financial help, whereas the UK government didn't, but I'm not sure that's all that reliable either.
Tata Steel Netherlads seeks government funding for decarbonisation — News — GMK Center
Soon, the company plans to provide a detailed decarbonization program to discuss the terms of the project
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I suspect the reality is a mix of all of it. Being outside the EU probably doesn't help. But our Govt has invested in Port Talbot, its just in the electric arc furnace which mothballs the blast furnaces- which is arguably linked to the net zero argument (see below).I don't know really. It just felt like the Welsh chap was shouting "Brexit" without really any of his working to back it up, just as Farage was shouting "Net Zero" with similarly scant evidence. For the Byline Times guy to laud it as the equivalent of Woodward and Bernstein seemed a bit much. He was just preaching to a different choir.
Incidentally, one of the comments on the YouTube video did mention a new EU environmental directive that (they said) prevented the Welsh plant from exporting to the EU because the plant isn't to the right standard (compared to the NL plant). They argued that the Dutch government gave them a lot of financial help, whereas the UK government didn't, but I'm not sure that's all that reliable either.
Tata Steel Netherlads seeks government funding for decarbonisation — News — GMK Center
Soon, the company plans to provide a detailed decarbonization program to discuss the terms of the project
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My mate (knows the plant well and still has friends working there) reckons from a business perspective it's much cheaper to import ingots from over seas plants and roll them here. Guess it's the same for the arc furnaces which melt scrap for new metal. I suspect the net zero element is only part of the story for Tata. They'll have filthy plants elsewhere I suspect.
Anyway, on part my curiosity about what constitutes exports. As Port Talbot won't make from new, but will process stuff.
Bluerover
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Could probably offer a new referendum.
However I think even if passed it would take some years for the Cion and other.MSs to agree to a readmission .
I was still working in 2016 and was in Brussels at the time. A lot of anger I am afraid.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Anger at what, that we wanted to be an independent nation again ?….
The U.K. allowed the whole of its Empire to go its own way, one by one, because that’s what they wanted. Should we have been angry ?…..the EU empire needs to get a grip tbh……
great britain dear, and are you drawing parallels of modern democracy to slave trade era 'shoot at will' policies? in your own time, no rush at all, you get your soldiers all lined up...
Bluerover
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Don't shoot the messenger Pete.
Bluerover
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I seem to have read somewhere about some spots of bother in Ireland India America Kenya etc before they were allowed to go their own way...
Carry on. Every day a school day in here
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
That’s may have been some of the locals tbf…..
look Tarquin, the natives are restless...
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
tbf we had something like 400,000,000 natives to deal with…….
and who's fault was that Peter...
The slaves of course.
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