You’re welcome mate x@nsno-chris talking about import processes makes me HARD
You’re welcome mate x@nsno-chris talking about import processes makes me HARD
It was when he spoke about a massive hole getting exploited...@nsno-chris talking about import processes makes me HARD
It was when he spoke about a massive hole getting exploited...
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I would assume that the UK is similar to Australia in that customs only inspect a very small percentage of incoming food containers, and the vast majority of checks are done by the food companies that are receiving the goods.Cheers Jim, just got round to listening to this. He’s wrong (but also correct) with what he said, because he hasn’t separated EU from non-EU. Couple of takes:
Computer systems - EU uses TRACES to monitor all SPS imports, we lost access to this but developed our own system called IPAFFS. It’s a project that I was involved with (process mapping the flow, beta testing etc)- and it’s actually a lot simpler to use than TRACES. There’s some elements which are missing, but nothing crucial. However, we have lost access to something called Rapid Alert system, and we have FSA (I think, maybe DEFRA) who monitor these notifications and inform ports (rather than the system doing it automatically)
Rotterdam statement - totally incorrect, every Border Control Post performs checks on food. Once it’s received clearance it can then move freely without any checks.
The U.K. still performs checks on food from outside the EU; but only stuff which has been directly imported. I think this is we’re the caller has got the statement wrong but the premise correct.
If something goes from India, into Hamburg on one vessel, then is put on another vessel to the U.K., this is the where the potential evasion is - simply because the shipping manifest states that the vessel has come from an EU port and therefore we are unable to identify the true nature of the “origin” of the consignment. The government, and I argued with them over this exact point, told us during a meeting that the “importer” would be honest and declare the goods to the Border Control Post. We knew they wouldn’t because there’d be extra charges levied against them or they could use this loophole as a seat of flooding our markets with crap.
We also simply can’t stop these “EU” containers because we’d disrupt the entire supply chain. Not all containers are manifested correctly, so “Meat” could be manifested as “personal goods”, it depends on what the shipping line enters. The importer would also need to make a submission via IPAFFS; but they know it won’t be identified.
There’s a very very simple way for us to identify these containers and start closing this loophole, but the information is held by Border Force and, this is unbelievable, they won’t share the information. We’ve been trying for 5 years, it’s gone to minster level and they’re still saying no.
So, in conclusion, yes we’re still doing checks but there’s a MASSIVE loophole which is getting exploited as correctly mentioned by the caller.
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No, it’s totally different.I would assume that the UK is similar to Australia in that customs only inspect a very small percentage of incoming food containers, and the vast majority of checks are done by the food companies that are receiving the goods.
The last food company I used to work for imported raw materials from all around the world, we would conduct tests on more than 10 times the amount of product that AQIS (our border control) would.
A lot of the checks are for our own QA purposes, but more are mandated by the supermarkets we sell out finished goods to.
So while we have all the same horror stories in Aus that you get in the UK (and things like horse meat lasagne does happen), the food chain is actually very well controlled in the main.
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So pretty much the same, I just didn't know the name of the agency that does food inspections in the UK.No, it’s totally different.
Customs don’t inspect food containers, they’re checked by Port Helath Authorities. Food inspections are conducted in line with regulations which determine the risk associated and the subsequent amount of “physical inspections” required. All imports are subject to 100% documentary checks which require little impact on the supply chain.
The government want to move to self regulation, with businesses conducting their own inspections. This is getting absolutely pushed by back by us. It’s a ludicrous idea and will increase the public health risks massively. We’ve seen it with other major issues
The horse meat scandal was a labelling issue, it wasn’t a real public health concern
Appointing the top-hatted one as Minister for Brexit Opportunities was a brilliant move to set him up as the fall guy.
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The testing of foodstuff is (was) conducted by the EFSA (European Safety Food Authority) which were an independent organisation that provided analytical data that allowed legislators to sure up the issues with border concerns.So pretty much the same, I just didn't know the name of the agency that does food inspections in the UK.
I'm interested why you think self regulation is ludicrous though? In Aus, food manufacturers are much more efficient and knowledgable than AQIS at knowing what, when, how and what to test foods for.
My view may be skewed as I have only worked with major food companies who sell through major supermarkets, so there are very strict controls around testing, but we do it much better than any government agency could.
Yeah, that is always a risk.The testing of foodstuff is (was) conducted by the EFSA (European Safety Food Authority) which were an independent organisation that provided analytical data that allowed legislators to sure up the issues with border concerns.
This was then placed on the relevant authorities to ensure compliance. Things like issues with melamine content in plastic materials from China and Hong Kong would not be picked up through self regulation.
When you move to self regulation, you’re literally marking your own homework. The model that the U.K. want to implement is goods come through, go to a warehouse and then the company conducts the check. I know, and a lot of people know, that money talks and if a deadline is to be met then the goods go on the shelves first and foremost. Public safety will always be an afterthought, hence why trade are pushing for it.
The EU system is good, it’s a bit outdated needs to be reviewed to look at changing risks rather than a set of products in legislation and it does harm smaller nations who are trying to increase exports
At least families will be able to send there children to work soon to help with the crippling debts that the government is allowing big business to shackle everyone with.
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Not quite the same, but the UK has an issue with reducing salts, fats and sugars in food and there's strong arguments that self-regulation or voluntary involvement rather than mandatory requirements are ineffective.So pretty much the same, I just didn't know the name of the agency that does food inspections in the UK.
I'm interested why you think self regulation is ludicrous though? In Aus, food manufacturers are much more efficient and knowledgable than AQIS at knowing what, when, how and what to test foods for.
My view may be skewed as I have only worked with major food companies who sell through major supermarkets, so there are very strict controls around testing, but we do it much better than any government agency could.
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