Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Walken]

Ps, are you a Holliday multi? The multi-quoting and odd attempt at a 'trap' to make a point feel oddly familiar.

It stinks of holliday, the misguided sense of superiority with a extremely bad faith argument style.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Oh dear oh dear. Banned from this sub-forum too.

It stinks of holliday, the misguided sense of superiority with a extremely bad faith argument style.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Ok guys thanks for the inputs.

If I was now to tell you that I IN FACT VOTED TO REMAIN in the 2016 referendum, how would you feel about the comments you just made?

If I was to tell you that I work in the aviation industry, and having worked for companies all over Europe before, following wherever the latest contract opportunities were, then on Jan 31st 2020 when the UK left the EU and thus by default also left EASA, overnight my qualifications became absolutely f'ing useless to work for any non UK based operator, and will remain so unless I commit to an enormous expense of time and money to repeat my training under EASA (about 18 months and £150k)....Of course, I saw this comming, I knew the prospect of leaving the EU had the potential to be an enormous problem for my professional life. Remain was the only sane choice I could have made, and that's what I did. I wish the result went that way, but here we are where we are.

Are my reasons for wanting to remain in the EU any more valid than those who had 'selfish, dumb, racist, bigoted, facist or gammon' reasons to leave the EU?

Is the bigotry that all leave voters are accused of any worse than the bigotry diplayed just now when some cast me as being a racist, facist gammon when they incorrectly assumed I voted leave?

I guess the point of this post is to highlight that things just aren't as black and white as many people so very desperately want them to be. I know theres an army of guys sat at their keyboards on every social network going, frothing at the mouth waiting for the next opportunity to dive in all guns blazing on what they consider to be a person who holds political opinions that differ from their own.... To bully them into internet submission, establishing once and for all, for the good of humanity, that us ourselves (the virtuous freedom fighters) are right and our opponents (the evil facists) are wrong!....But it never comes. Every point they make we come back with a pre-planned counter, every link we post to support our argument they ignore it...the very essence of a confirmation bias on both sides.

Just consider taking a steb back from the front line of political partisanship guys and take your fellow humans as individuals. The world becomes a much more tranquil place to exist!

 

[slipstream86]

This really isn't the gotcha moment you clearly think it is.

I in fact didn't support the nazi party !! Ha, who is the fool now!!!!

I'm not alledging anybodys foolishness or nazi affiliation. The point of posting my experience is to highlight an individualistic approach to judging peoples opinions rather than the blanket 'us good them bad bad' attitude we have now.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

alledging

*alleging

 

[slipstream86]

*alleging

Cheers mate.

You guys need to pout down your weapons, I'm not having a go. Simply sharing what I feel the benfits of my own neutral outlook are.

 

[Walken]

I'm not alledging anybodys foolishness or nazi affiliation. The point of posting my experience is to highlight an individualistic approach to judging peoples opinions rather than the blanket 'us good them bad bad' attitude we have now.

Yes the abstract brilliance of your point did not pass me by, I was being deliberately hyperbolic to highlight how ridiculous it was.

 

[Walken]

Neutral is the thinking man's central

 

[Walken]

I haven't felt so shocked and duped since the penguin took the rubber glove off his head in Wallace and gromit, I've learned my lesson I can tell you that much.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Neutral is the thinking man's central

Only the enlightened can see things from both sides.

 

[Bohemian Toffee]

Only the enlightened can see things from both sides.

Only the truly enlightened can see there are no sides. Like a circle.

 

[Prevenger17]

Ok guys thanks for the inputs.

If I was now to tell you that I IN FACT VOTED TO REMAIN in the 2016 referendum, how would you feel about the comments you just made?

If I was to tell you that I work in the aviation industry, and having worked for companies all over Europe before, following wherever the latest contract opportunities were, then on Jan 31st 2020 when the UK left the EU and thus by default also left EASA, overnight my qualifications became absolutely f'ing useless to work for any non UK based operator, and will remain so unless I commit to an enormous expense of time and money to repeat my training under EASA (about 18 months and £150k)....Of course, I saw this comming, I knew the prospect of leaving the EU had the potential to be an enormous problem for my professional life. Remain was the only sane choice I could have made, and that's what I did. I wish the result went that way, but here we are where we are.

Are my reasons for wanting to remain in the EU any more valid than those who had 'selfish, dumb, racist, bigoted, facist or gammon' reasons to leave the EU?

Is the bigotry that all leave voters are accused of any worse than the bigotry diplayed just now when some cast me as being a racist, facist gammon when they incorrectly assumed I voted leave?

I guess the point of this post is to highlight that things just aren't as black and white as many people so very desperately want them to be. I know theres an army of guys sat at their keyboards on every social network going, frothing at the mouth waiting for the next opportunity to dive in all guns blazing on what they consider to be a person who holds political opinions that differ from their own.... To bully them into internet submission, establishing once and for all, for the good of humanity, that us ourselves (the virtuous freedom fighters) are right and our opponents (the evil facists) are wrong!....But it never comes. Every point they make we come back with a pre-planned counter, every link we post to support our argument they ignore it...the very essence of a confirmation bias on both sides.

Just consider taking a steb back from the front line of political partisanship guys and take your fellow humans as individuals. The world becomes a much more tranquil place to exist!

Gadzooks, I've been bamboozled!!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Cheers mate.

You guys need to pout down your weapons, I'm not having a go. Simply sharing what I feel the benfits of my own neutral outlook are.

 

[Walken]

I'm glad he shared the benefits though

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Ok guys thanks for the inputs.

If I was now to tell you that I IN FACT VOTED TO REMAIN in the 2016 referendum, how would you feel about the comments you just made?

If I was to tell you that I work in the aviation industry, and having worked for companies all over Europe before, following wherever the latest contract opportunities were, then on Jan 31st 2020 when the UK left the EU and thus by default also left EASA, overnight my qualifications became absolutely f'ing useless to work for any non UK based operator, and will remain so unless I commit to an enormous expense of time and money to repeat my training under EASA (about 18 months and £150k)....Of course, I saw this comming, I knew the prospect of leaving the EU had the potential to be an enormous problem for my professional life. Remain was the only sane choice I could have made, and that's what I did. I wish the result went that way, but here we are where we are.

Are my reasons for wanting to remain in the EU any more valid than those who had 'selfish, dumb, racist, bigoted, facist or gammon' reasons to leave the EU?

Is the bigotry that all leave voters are accused of any worse than the bigotry diplayed just now when some cast me as being a racist, facist gammon when they incorrectly assumed I voted leave?

I guess the point of this post is to highlight that things just aren't as black and white as many people so very desperately want them to be. I know theres an army of guys sat at their keyboards on every social network going, frothing at the mouth waiting for the next opportunity to dive in all guns blazing on what they consider to be a person who holds political opinions that differ from their own.... To bully them into internet submission, establishing once and for all, for the good of humanity, that us ourselves (the virtuous freedom fighters) are right and our opponents (the evil facists) are wrong!....But it never comes. Every point they make we come back with a pre-planned counter, every link we post to support our argument they ignore it...the very essence of a confirmation bias on both sides.

Just consider taking a steb back from the front line of political partisanship guys and take your fellow humans as individuals. The world becomes a much more tranquil place to exist!

It is always good to see a new face, even one that joined 10 years ago - howdy partner.

Seeing as you worked in the avaition industry, you might be able to help with a 'hot topic' on here that keeps popping up. You must have lots of experience around aeroplanes and airports. Assuming that this is so and with a firm view on capacity usage, when you travelled to airports with work (or even leisure), did you notice if taxi's leaving the airport were full or empty? I ask as I suspect as it may pose an inversion of the town taxi phenomenon, but with the same issue i.e. no passengers.