peteblue
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I merely repeated what was stated in the HoC today…..
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I merely repeated what was stated in the HoC today…..
It's funny what happens when you give parliament barely a few days to assess and then vote on something so important, isn't it? It's almost like it means you have absolutely no idea what you're voting on.
All that tells me is that it was lunacy to actually leave the EU. Look at that simple example of the burden and cost placed on a UK business exporting to the EU i.e. the ROI. Staying in the free market none of that was necessary. Its like chopping your hand off, then complaining that you cant wear gloves.
Bluerover
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Ahh. Since when did Latin become an official and compulsory language of the EU?
As for 700 pages - that is a ridiculous, gross exaggeration. It is a pain for our officials alright but after some early hiccups, it has been working very well for the past 12 months
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Mate what MP stated this please?
Bluerover
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Ok found it.
www.newsletter.co.uk
The Latin refers to species of plants and flowers I would think unless he has a problem with ovine, bovine, porcine, equine as English language descriptions of meat.
My experience is in meat and animal health. I cannot speak on requirements for import of plant species but I would be shocked at 700 pages - I think we might have heard about this before now
M&S: Protocol will mean lorries ‘need 700 pages of documents'
Marks & Spencer chairman and former Tory MP Archie Norman said the Northern Ireland protocol is “very, very onerous” and costs the business “about £30 million”.
www.newsletter.co.uk
The Latin refers to species of plants and flowers I would think unless he has a problem with ovine, bovine, porcine, equine as English language descriptions of meat.
My experience is in meat and animal health. I cannot speak on requirements for import of plant species but I would be shocked at 700 pages - I think we might have heard about this before now
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Ah, C'mon now. 700 pages isn't bad. GoT has done 5432 pages just talking about it! 700 is for lightweights!Ok found it.
M&S: Protocol will mean lorries ‘need 700 pages of documents'
Marks & Spencer chairman and former Tory MP Archie Norman said the Northern Ireland protocol is “very, very onerous” and costs the business “about £30 million”.
The Latin refers to species of plants and flowers I would think unless he has a problem with ovine, bovine, porcine, equine as English language descriptions of meat.
My experience is in meat and animal health. I cannot speak on requirements for import of plant species but I would be shocked at 700 pages - I think we might have heard about this before now
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
It was one of the Irish MP’s, I honestly can’t remember his name, probably DUP but I don’t know. I looked up the detail afterwards and there was also an article about the M&S Chairman saying what he did…..
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I have no idea. I just repeated what was spoken in the HoC….
Bluerover
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Cheers mate - mind you a DUP MP would not thank you for calling them an Irish MP
Have a look at the Newsletter article in my earlier post.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Fair comment, except why do the EU do it. It kills trade with Africa and S America and has no benefit for consumers. It’s protectionist and nothing else……
Bluerover
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This from the DAFM part of the Irish Government website. I can't see any of this requiring 7 pages never mind 700!!
www.gov.ie
This for plant imports - a phytosanitary cert is usually one or two pages
horticultureconnected.ie
Register to Import or Export
Find out what you need to do now to import and export, and how to register.
This for plant imports - a phytosanitary cert is usually one or two pages
DAFM Brexit - Import Procedures (UK) - HorticultureConnected.ie
Please carefully note the following information when importing or otherwise risk delays or entry refusal at the Irish border:
horticultureconnected.ie
brilliant cartoon in the Telegraph today (centre page) sums the EU up perfectly.
I think it protects European industry particularly agriculture, I think by doing this though it gives baseline, regulation, standards and support, the pay back is supply chain and certainty in the sector and so the mutality of the supply chain in terms of continuity, standard and support is met. I think we all know there are huge concerns around South American meat for example, it’s cheaper for a reason. @Bluerover worked at Goverment and administration and he’d know more then me, but just for illustrative purposes.
On the flip side the EU also promotes competition. For example I bought the same Battery Lawnmower of a German company online, 100 euro cheaper then the local B&Q here. I bought a Heineken Blade Beer machine 200 euro cheaper from Italy, equally stuff that uniquely Irish is cheap here. So from that point of view competition is rife amongst business’s all around Europe. That’s the market the U.K. can’t function in any more, a pity as I often bought things from U.K. business. I was after wall lights a couple of weeks back and I sourced ones I wanted in a UK electrical outlet, they were 40 euro for the lights, to bring them into the EU it was addition 60 odd euro estimated and the company said that may not be the final duty bill. Needless to say - no thanks.
Id propose the idea of Brexit is protectionist, wasn’t it all about, doing your own trade deals, reclaiming the borders, Britain doing what’s best for Britain, isn’t that protectionist. Leaving one block, to act as a smaller one.
What I often find weird is the U.K. is a collection of four countries, basically controlled by England looking after themselves from London mutually. The argument against the EU is it’s 28 countries looking after themselves from Brussels mutually. Essentially the same thing just the EU having broader scope and clout.
Brexit to my mind, was a bad political decision to hold a vote and went wrong, it wiped out a generation of U.K. politicians of a high caliber in resignations and left politicians of a low caliber to grab at power they never would normally have got near, be a good 10 years until the antivirus is run, but lads like Boris have a shelf life and the EU know it, it will be over soon, the coming recession might do it.
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Bluerover
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Great post mate.
I am very aware that the UK electorate is entitled to make up its own mind, but objectively we are looking on from ROI and scratching our heads as to why the UK did what it did.
The EU is a PITA for MSs in many ways but the benefits of membership far outweigh the negatives. We punch above our weight because we usually try to find agreement where there is difficulty. Thus Ireland is seen as a positive influence overall in spite of our small population. That does not give us a free pass - nor should it btw - in terms of conformity with EU standards.
Yes the Commission is unelected and all powerful, but the upside is unfettered access to 500 million people
I had plenty of difficult meetings with Commission officialdom which, if they went wrong, could have cost Ireland hundreds of millions. It is not easy, one has to retain composure and determination, but the UK walking away from nearly fifty years of commitment was short sighted.
I know that plenty of my UK colleagues were really devastated with the Brexit vote as they understood the implications for GB. However, I don't think the GB voters gave a toss about the complications that would be caused in NI.
Sadly Brexit is being used by dinosaur 22% Donaldson to beat his Lambeg drum and disenfranchise 78% from having a NI Assembly and Executive
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