Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Chewbacca]

…and get on with life…..

Ah the good old Blitz spirit.

Sad to see this country dragged down by racists egged on by opportunistic spivs

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Nice diagram of right wing Covid sceptics, climate change deniers and hard Brexiters. Lots of familiar faces and organisations, including, of course those on Tufton Street. Its like a Hogwarts reunion just for Fascists'.

 

[peteblue]

Ah the good old Blitz spirit.

Sad to see this country dragged down by racists egged on by opportunistic spivs

By dragged down you mean having one of the lowest unemployment rates in Europe, battering the likes of Germany, France and Spain…….

 

[Kurt.]

By dragged down you mean having one of the lowest unemployment rates in Europe, battering the likes of Germany, France and Spain…….

Are they still counting zero hour contracts as employed ?

 

[Hickson9]

We are down to only an extreme few who think Brexit is going well.

 

[Haydn]

By dragged down you mean having one of the lowest unemployment rates in Europe, battering the likes of Germany, France and Spain…….

Pete, I’d evaluate “dragged down” by the use of facts and objective metrics supplied by reputable organisations.

Try these.

Growth​

Even before Britain completed its split from the EU at the end of 2020, Brexit had reduced the size of the U.K. economy by about 1.5%, according to estimates from the Office for Budget Responsibility. That was due to a fall in business investment and a transfer of economic activity to the EU in anticipation of higher trade barriers.

Since the U.K.-EU free trade deal came into force, the decline in trade volumes means Brexit is on course to cause a 4% reduction in the size of Britain’s economy over the long-run, according to the OBR. That’s in line with its pre-Brexit forecast.

“A loss of 4-5% of GDP is a big deal,” wrote John Springford, deputy director of the CER, in a research note, agreeing with the OBR’s prediction. “Governments everywhere would leap on a policy that would raise GDP by 5%.”


Britain has made only limited progress in signing trade deals that go beyond the agreements it enjoyed as a member of the EU. Earlier this month, the U.K. signed its first wholly independent trade deal -- with Australia -- and preliminary terms have been agreed with New Zealand. But the economic boost from both accords is forecast to be limited. A trade deal with the U.S., touted as one of the major prizes of Brexit, appears years away.

Lagging Behind​

The U.K. is still further below pre-crisis GDP than most major economies

This bit is really funny !
And of all the regions of the U.K., Northern Ireland -- which remained in the EU’s single market for goods as part of the post-Brexit settlement -- appears to have fared best. The province has largely recovered from the hit of the pandemic, with third-quarter output only 0.3% below the final quarter of 2019,

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Yeh but we have blue passports, so there EU.

Brexit blow for disabled people as EU destinations stop recognising UK blue badges

Spain, France, Italy, Portugal and Greece are among countries not currently recognising UK badges

www.independent.co.uk

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

The Telegraph...lol

Time is running out to prove Brexit is not a historic failure

It's been five years since the referendum. 2022 is the year reality needs to match the hype

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Harryflashman]

The Telegraph...lol

Time is running out to prove Brexit is not a historic failure

It's been five years since the referendum. 2022 is the year reality needs to match the hype

www.telegraph.co.uk

Remoaner rag

 

[woodsyni]

What is it with remainers….guys, we’ve moved on, we are out, we are doing deals around the world, the Eu are just getting used to the rules and regulations to import to the U.K. that we have endured for the last year importing to the Eu. Let’s just get on with our lives and businesses……

Translated: Alright, turns out Brexit was really bad for Britain but we can't admit we were wrong so please stop reminding us of it. Mutter, mutter, something about loads of world deals.... mutter, mutter.

 

[woodsyni]

Oh, let's start using 'Reminders' instead of 'Remainers' ?

 

[peteblue]

Oh, let's start using 'Reminders' instead of 'Remainers' ?

No, I’m happy with remoaners…..

 

[woodsyni]

No, I’m happy with remoaners…..

You don't sound happy, to be fair. Moaning about people moaning. You're a 'remoaner-moaner'.

 

[peteblue]

Pete, I’d evaluate “dragged down” by the use of facts and objective metrics supplied by reputable organisations.

Try these.

Growth​

Even before Britain completed its split from the EU at the end of 2020, Brexit had reduced the size of the U.K. economy by about 1.5%, according to estimates from the Office for Budget Responsibility. That was due to a fall in business investment and a transfer of economic activity to the EU in anticipation of higher trade barriers.

Since the U.K.-EU free trade deal came into force, the decline in trade volumes means Brexit is on course to cause a 4% reduction in the size of Britain’s economy over the long-run, according to the OBR. That’s in line with its pre-Brexit forecast.

“A loss of 4-5% of GDP is a big deal,” wrote John Springford, deputy director of the CER, in a research note, agreeing with the OBR’s prediction. “Governments everywhere would leap on a policy that would raise GDP by 5%.”


Britain has made only limited progress in signing trade deals that go beyond the agreements it enjoyed as a member of the EU. Earlier this month, the U.K. signed its first wholly independent trade deal -- with Australia -- and preliminary terms have been agreed with New Zealand. But the economic boost from both accords is forecast to be limited. A trade deal with the U.S., touted as one of the major prizes of Brexit, appears years away.

Lagging Behind​

The U.K. is still further below pre-crisis GDP than most major economies

This bit is really funny !
And of all the regions of the U.K., Northern Ireland -- which remained in the EU’s single market for goods as part of the post-Brexit settlement -- appears to have fared best. The province has largely recovered from the hit of the pandemic, with third-quarter output only 0.3% below the final quarter of 2019,

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

Personally I’m really pleased for NI, I always said they would do ok. In terms of the rest of us I would ask who has lost out. Some on here are involved in import/export and obviously it is more difficult, but no more difficult than they were doing with the rest of the world. So let’s be honest here, who has lost out. Bruce will tell us about travelling within the EU, but what about the rest of you. All you Remainers , just list how it has affected you personally, don’t tell me about the big world, how has it affected you…

 

[woodsyni]

Personally I’m really pleased for NI, I always said they would do ok. In terms of the rest of us I would ask who has lost out. Some on here are involved in import/export and obviously it is more difficult, but no more difficult than they were doing with the rest of the world. So let’s be honest here, who has lost out. Bruce will tell us about travelling within the EU, but what about the rest of you. All you Remainers , just list how it has affected you personally, don’t tell me about the big world, how has it affected you…

You think it's going well for Northern Ireland?????? You're not following this very closely, are you? The whole thing is simmering and in danger of boiling over bringing everything down. You've said some daft things but that's the daftest!