Current Affairs EU In or Out

[roydo]

Be sooner rather than later, the beginning of the end our populist frolic has begun. Sensible heads will prevail and see the merits of being part of something bigger and stronger. Geopolitics and ourng economics will demand it.

Michael Heseltine: Next generation will reject Brexit – Europe will welcome us back

Across the world, there is incomprehension at what we have done to ourselves, writes Michael Heseltine

www.independent.co.uk

He isnt wrong in his "shot in the foot" stuff. But we will never rejoin if the condition remains joining the Euro.

 

[arminisgod]

Be sooner rather than later, the beginning of the end our populist frolic has begun. Sensible heads will prevail and see the merits of being part of something bigger and stronger. Geopolitics and our economics will demand it.

Michael Heseltine: Next generation will reject Brexit – Europe will welcome us back

Across the world, there is incomprehension at what we have done to ourselves, writes Michael Heseltine

www.independent.co.uk

You're living in fantasy land. Britain is done with the EU.

We will never rejoin

 

[spectateur]

Thank you, what’s the view from the other side of the water ?….

Macron is not very popular, not because of his foreign activities, but due to the way he is pushing through reforms based on neo lib free market capitalist ideology.
The French by and large seem restless at the moment.

 

[peteblue]

Macron is not very popular, not because of his foreign activities, but due to the way he is pushing through reforms based on neo lib free market capitalist ideology.
The French by and large seem restless at the moment.

What’s the betting for the next President….

 

[WA Toffee]

So Macron has now thrown his toys out of the pram with America, the U.K. and Australia. He has shown himself up pretending to be tough while everyone else just gets on with ignoring him. His standard modus operandi seems to be take personal offence over anything, blow it up out of all proportion, then say the ball is in the other countries court and they must offer him something. I’m afraid he’s now been found out and had his pants pulled down by Australia. I expect that the rest of the EU are getting a little bit fed up of his mini Napoleon act…..

Must admit, I don't know much about Macron (I honestly couldn't tell you if he is left or right) but there is no news outlet in Australia siggesting Australia had Macrons pants down. The general consensus is that our PM has played this very badly and Macron has shown him up.

How is it being reported in the UK?

 

[spectateur]

Next président ?
Don't know but the danger is from the evolving populist right rather than the old school Le Pen stuff.

 

[tsubaki]

Next président ?
Don't know but the danger is from the evolving populist right rather than the old school Le Pen stuff.

That particular bloke stands out as absolute knob, even by the high standard of being absolute knobs set by the modern populist right.

Imagine trying to kick off the Dreyfus affair again to own the libz.

 

[peteblue]

Must admit, I don't know much about Macron (I honestly couldn't tell you if he is left or right) but there is no news outlet in Australia siggesting Australia had Macrons pants down. The general consensus is that our PM has played this very badly and Macron has shown him up.

How is it being reported in the UK?

Depends on the outlet. Many reported the Aus Pm showing a text proving that Macron knew before he said he did,while others are reporting that France is upset because of a ‘new low’ by Australia in releasing the text message, note not saying it was incorrect, just bad form. Either way it appears to have silenced Macron…..

 

[peteblue]

Next président ?
Don't know but the danger is from the evolving populist right rather than the old school Le Pen stuff.

Biden or Trump, Boris or Corbyn/Starmer, Macron or Le Pen/Nutter, Germany between several other wasters. The west is screwed…….

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Biden or Trump, Boris or Corbyn/Starmer, Macron or Le Pen/Nutter, Germany between several other wasters. The west is screwed…….

 

[spectateur]

Biden or Trump, Boris or Corbyn/Starmer, Macron or Le Pen/Nutter, Germany between several other wasters. The west is screwed…….

That particular bloke stands out as absolute knob, even by the high standard of being absolute knobs set by the modern populist right.

Imagine trying to kick off the Dreyfus affair again to own the libz.

That particular bloke being Xavier Bertrand? Président du région Hauts de France.

 

[tsubaki]

That particular bloke being Xavier Bertrand? Président du région Hauts de France.

No, Zemmour

 

[Gabagool]

No, Zemmour

As @spectateur mentioned above, EM's reforms which were forced through at every turn, have not been warmly received by wider French society. Those who made the effort to turn out to vote in the second round last time did so to keep MLP out and was not an acceptance of the neoliberal quinquennat which has subsequently been imposed.

Zemmour's rise has resulted in Le Pen's support bleeding out heavily all over the show, rather than absorbing any votes from Hidalgo or Mélenchon. Although all polls that I've seen currently show a Macron win in the second round (~ 55-45), I'm curious to see whether the general ambivalence towards him would be enough for one of the right-wing candidates to cause a real upset. Local and mayoral election turnout over the past 18 months set new records for voter abstention, and so this contest will be considerably closer than the previous one imo.

 

[Zezti]

 

[peteblue]

At least it’s in English, that‘ll upset them…..