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    Votes: 325 32.1%

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Always found it mad how there is NZ lamb in supermarkets when we produce far more than the population eats.
Lamb and beef prices fluctuate pretty wildly so will be interesting to see what push back there is on this
It's seasonal mate, or at least it used to be, we imported NZ in Winter when all of our lambs intended for market had been culled/would have been too old to be lamb.
 
For all the cry arsing going on has anyone on here's life drastically changed since Brexit?

Like politics you hear a lot of tears and swears but ultimately very little changes in the grand scheme of things whoever is in power/PM.
Out of interest, how much of your life has dramatically changed since? Or, how much of your life did you notice was dramatically influenced by the EU before?
 
From the Office for Budget Responsibility's Economic and fiscal outlook (available here: https://obr.uk/download/economic-and-fiscal-outlook-october-2021/):

"Since our first post-EU referendum EFO in November 2016, our forecasts have assumed that
total UK imports and exports will eventually both be 15 per cent lower than had we stayed in the
EU. This reduction in trade intensity drives the 4 per cent reduction in long-run potential
productivity we assume will eventually result from our departure from the EU.

[...]The Centre for European Reform has attempted to isolate the impact of

Brexit using a ‘doppelganger UK’ (constructed as a weighted average of other countries’ gross
goods trade flows) as a counterfactual for what would have happened had the UK remained in
the EU. That analysis concluded that, since the transition period ended, leaving the single market
and customs union had reduced UK goods trade by 15.8 per cent as of August 2021.

[...]the evidence so far suggests that both import and export intensity have been

reduced by Brexit, with developments still consistent with our initial assumption of a 15 per cent
reduction in each."



So, those pesky experts' forecasts seem to have been mostly correct, and not 'project fear'.
I'm still wondering why we did this to ourselves? Are we feeling our sovreignties go up, or something?
 
From the Office for Budget Responsibility's Economic and fiscal outlook (available here: https://obr.uk/download/economic-and-fiscal-outlook-october-2021/):

"Since our first post-EU referendum EFO in November 2016, our forecasts have assumed that
total UK imports and exports will eventually both be 15 per cent lower than had we stayed in the
EU. This reduction in trade intensity drives the 4 per cent reduction in long-run potential
productivity we assume will eventually result from our departure from the EU.

[...]The Centre for European Reform has attempted to isolate the impact of

Brexit using a ‘doppelganger UK’ (constructed as a weighted average of other countries’ gross
goods trade flows) as a counterfactual for what would have happened had the UK remained in
the EU. That analysis concluded that, since the transition period ended, leaving the single market
and customs union had reduced UK goods trade by 15.8 per cent as of August 2021.

[...]the evidence so far suggests that both import and export intensity have been

reduced by Brexit, with developments still consistent with our initial assumption of a 15 per cent
reduction in each."



So, those pesky experts' forecasts seem to have been mostly correct, and not 'project fear'.
I'm still wondering why we did this to ourselves? Are we feeling our sovreignties go up, or something?

Say it aint so Mr Boris sir...

 
So the French are saying the uk must be punished to show that leaving the EU is worse than remaining.

A little imperial don't you think? I thought the EU were Liberal and the best thing on the world?
 
So the French are saying the uk must be punished to show that leaving the EU is worse than remaining.

A little imperial don't you think? I thought the EU were Liberal and the best thing on the world?
Trade war rhetoric in response to Boris the bodge and chums negating on their "historic deal" which most of us knew was bad for UK fishing and now we want to change.
And EU will win trade war, law of the jungle.
 
Trade war rhetoric in response to Boris the bodge and chums negating on their "historic deal" which most of us knew was bad for UK fishing and now we want to change.
And EU will win trade war, law of the jungle.
Nonsense. French boats can't prove they've ever fished in the waters round Jersey.

You have slated Johnson and the uk for breaking a deal... now the EU are and in a far more threatening way its OK?
 
Nonsense. French boats can't prove they've ever fished in the waters round Jersey.

You have slated Johnson and the uk for breaking a deal... now the EU are and in a far more threatening way its OK?
Yes it’s fine… the U.K. agreed a deal and are now negating on it… British fishing boats caught in French waters… only person to blame is your hero boris
 
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